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May 2, 2008

Caddy Kills the Audi on CarDomain

By Rob Einaudi

Editor-in-Chief

The CTS-V earned a convincing victory over the RS 4 in this week’s Showroom Showdown. In general, style and the horsepower seemed to trump AWD and "German engineering." But my favorite quote was by Tony87: "Even if the Caddy was made in some mexican sweat shop. I’d rather have a burrito than a plate of sauerkraut, and i’m german." According to the UAW, the CTS is built in North America. Stay tuned for another match up next week.

Cadillac CTS-V

Comments

yer mom
May 6, 2008 at 6:28 pm

Cadillac is a piece of crap, rednecks must be here to polish this turd.

Tony87
May 6, 2008 at 2:13 am

Boy Rob, I hope you don’t have to do ALL the showroom showdowns…
I’ll bet you get a lot of crap if you do…

Rob
May 5, 2008 at 6:55 pm

Ok guys, some of you are missing the point of these little contests. The question is not, “Which is better?” The question is, “Which car would YOU rather own.” That’s it. I don’t pick the winners or attempt to influence the voting in any way.

Tony87
May 5, 2008 at 5:11 am

Jalopnik Rules… if that IS your real name…
The editor of the article (Rob in this case) doesn’t choose the winner, there’s a vote. Go to the Showroom showdown section of the blog. You’ll find the bit where everyone voted right under the winner headline.
Also, give cardomain a chance, you might start to like it sooner or later. I’m a regular now over at jalopnik (I have the same username over there), but I like this place too.

Vic
May 4, 2008 at 11:14 pm

FLK, why are you being such a jerk. I doubt you have driven any of these cars but you insist on pretending you know everything. Also, the latest RS4 went on sale in 2006, 2 years ago, its not 5 years old. And the platform is 3.5 years old, so STFU.

Vic
May 4, 2008 at 11:14 pm

FLK, why are you being such a jerk. I doubt you have driven any of these cars but you insist on pretending you know everything. Also, the lastest RS4 went on sale in 2006, 2 years ago, its not 5 years old. And the platform is 3.5 years old, so STFU.

FKL
May 4, 2008 at 9:20 pm

“FKL, we’d had the M3 sedan in a recent match up, against the IS-F (it lost). http://blog.cardomain.com/blog/2008/01/lexus-beats-the.html We try to mix it up a bit. And I’m not sure Mercedes would have done any better against the Cadillac.”

By what exact qualities did the Lexus win over the BMW? …Because if I recall, the BMW has beaten the Lexus in every major-magazine review I have read. The month’s R&T lists the cars as follows.

1st: Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG
2nd: BMW M3 Sedan
3rd: Audi RS4
4th: Lexus IS-F

When the “new” Lexus can’t beat over a five year old Audi in it’s last year of production, you have a problem. They mentioned its ugly (1), its not nearly as fun to drive (2), and the interior stack is too pedestrian (3). So “what” if it beat it in “Car domain”, because apparently every major magazine agrees that the Lexus can’t really overpower its tuetonic competition.

steane
May 4, 2008 at 11:41 am

Whilst I respect the CTS-V for what it is, IMO its an ugly bugger of thing. The front-end styling belongs back in the ‘angular’ 80’s where most other manufacturers left their similar designs – horrible and not a patch on the Audi – any Audi for that matter.

But I like what the CTS-V is under the skin. I guess the perfect place would be behind the wheel…where you don’t have to look at it.

Jalopnik Rules !!!!!
May 4, 2008 at 9:21 am

I am positive the editor of this article is biased….look at the all the comments you have hear cheering the RS4 even now when you gave your unqualified opinion choosing the other car – do you even do any research? Did you get beat by an Audi or something?

I am going back to Jalopnik…..where “REAL” car people write about cars. You write like a teenager who knows nothing about cars.

Joe Gakenheimer
May 3, 2008 at 11:09 pm

I think the CTS-V is now the king, with the CTC-V ready to take the honors in another year or two.

fatherofgenius
May 3, 2008 at 8:34 pm

Had a previous CTS-V which was the most fun of any car that I have owned even more fun than my old Lotus Espirit,or my current Aston Martin.Classiest no, best interior no.So if the new one is better,fun quotient only goes up in my opinion

Tony87
May 3, 2008 at 8:11 pm

OK, lets get something straight. I am german. We are not some super-race that creates the best cars in the world. What was said is exactly right; german cars tend to be over-engineered, and a car being over-engineered in any sense generally isn’t considered a great car. It can be a good car, just not a great one. A great car has to be perfect in every way, and being “over-engineered is considered a type of flaw (hence the term “over-engineered” rather then “perfectly-engineered”). It’s same way with american cars being too bare-bones and japanese cars being too techno-gizmo… ie.
However, FKL brings up the good point that it is these “characteristics” that make up the essential beauty in cars, whatever country they’re from.

Besides all that though, there’s something that needs to be said for future reference for ALL the people who post in car-forums like this. Now, i’m not trying to say you shouldn’t support and cheer on your favorite car, but please, don’t be a douche about it.

Mister-E
May 3, 2008 at 5:37 pm

You can keep the burrito and the sauerkraut… i’ll go for the sushi a.k.a. nissan gt-r

Rob
May 3, 2008 at 4:09 pm

FKL, we’d had the M3 sedan in a recent match up, against the IS-F (it lost). http://blog.cardomain.com/blog/2008/01/lexus-beats-the.html We try to mix it up a bit. And I’m not sure Mercedes would have done any better against the Cadillac.

ROJ
May 3, 2008 at 1:18 pm

This sounds like the Z06 vs F430/V8 Aston/R8 debate.
The best part is we get choice. We win.

FKL
May 3, 2008 at 8:14 am

Um yeah, how about we compare the CTS-V to a new German design, like a Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG or BMW M3 sedan instead of a 5 year old Audi platform. Give me a break. Those latter two will kill this car in everything from interior quality to exterior panel tolorances. German engineering is not something to be taken for granted and has influenced the design and engineering of most domestic and Japanese cars for years. There is a reason Honda benchmarks the Passat for its Accord, why Lexus benchmarks Audi for interior quality, Infiniti and BMW for performance. I still think the CTS-V is a valliant effort by Caddilac, just not one that neccesarily “trumps” all of its German-competitors. The external design is striking, but the rest of the car isn’t quite on German levels of sophistication, a belief ushered by most reviews of the car. Yes, the price is all wonderful, but has anyone ever sat down and thought WHY those German cars are more expensive at the end of the day? Overengineering may lead to questionable reliability down the line, but it also is the beauty that lies in every German design.

Tony87
May 3, 2008 at 7:36 am

HA! He likes my comment…
lotta sore loser audi guys round here…

Ian
May 3, 2008 at 7:20 am

“I’ll take the Audi…I still remeber the Catera.”

You remember the German-made Cadillac, so you’ll take the German car? Or are you saying you remember it fondly?

lol
May 3, 2008 at 5:55 am

hmm..while I absolutely love the new CTS (I consider getting one), there is nooo way I would get CTS-V over RS4, even though RS4 is smaller, older and less powerful, its an AUDI! Nobody will ever match interior design and quality of an Audi.

Dieselabstimmen
May 3, 2008 at 5:42 am

Burrito’s give me gas, I’ll take some Bratwurst.

George
May 3, 2008 at 4:08 am

I’ll take the Audi…I still remeber the Catera.

Mark
May 3, 2008 at 3:34 am

“German Engineering” is such an empty phrase today. What does it mean? Overly complicated? Check. Over priced? Check. Intrusive technology? Check. It sure doesn’t mean better quality. What a joke.

Henry
May 3, 2008 at 12:53 am

Let’s see…piece of crap ugly American car or a well-balanced slice of German engineering? Yep, I’ll have the German. And I do.

Hans
May 3, 2008 at 12:31 am

Thats whassup. GM && UAW Pride working together to make the world’s best cars. Period.

buahahahaha

Stewart
May 3, 2008 at 12:00 am

Like I said…
.
CTS-V FTW!!!

Anonymous
May 2, 2008 at 11:30 pm

Yeeeah; what Darvell said… ‘Cept the Union ain’t got nothing to do with it.

Darvell
May 2, 2008 at 11:18 pm

Thats whassup. GM && UAW Pride working together to make the world’s best cars. Period.

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