Jay Leno's Choice Words For Detroit

Kyler you are just ignorant. It doesn’t matter how good of a driver you are if some drunk runs a red light and t-bones you now does it? Do you work for Mitsubishi or something? Why do you keep advertising the Evo. Maybe some people don’t like them because they are just not cool. There are SOO many things that you get with an American car that you cannot get with an import. For instance, sound. I would also like to see you support your claim that “the Corvette is overrated.” So many people say this but they can’t back it up.

I am sick of the european and japanese even indian car companies coming over and taking business from the american companies who actually need it.

my entire family has owned dodge’s. my dad has a stealth (’94 v6 non turbo) and still running. i have an older model avenger (’00 ES v6), it runs great. and we had a van by toyota (i know i know but its about to die).

THE PROBLEM WITH AMERICAN COMPANIES IS ALL THEY FEEL IS BIGGER IS BETTER.

chevy, ford, chrystler, dodge, all they focus on is their trucks. trucks, and suvs. WELL ITS TIME TO WAKE UP AMERICA.

WE ARE IN A RECESSION IF U HAVEN’T NOTICED… GAS PRICES ARE GOING TO CRUSH US.

and building big trucks, and gas huffing suv’s is ridiculous. it’s time to downsize, and rethink. it’s time to completely start over from square one of the drawing board. because something is wrong. only one or two great cars have been produced. the smart car, and maybe the prius which isn’t even ours.

we need gas milage people.

its time for a revolution – of transportation.

oh and by the way, everyone with a suv they are trying to get rid of, good luck, no one can afford it now.

seriously , thanks … i really mean it.

Hey BUDZ ,
thanks for the history lesson. i guess your country was built with flowers and love beads. name one country that didnt kill something to stake its claim.

Let’s look at why cars/trucks . . .

2007 Dodge Charger R/T:
Weight: 3820lbs
HP: 340
EPA: 17/25

2008 Pontiac G8:
Weight: 3885
HP: 361
EPA: 15/24

2008 Ford F-150 Crew Cab:
Weight: 5025
HP: 300
EPA: 13/17

The commonality with all these vehicles is WEIGHT. If Detroit wants to stuff CAFE standards, the easiest way to may today’s cars lighter. My 04 GTO has the same LS1 as my friends 01 Corvette. I get approx. 17/22 and he gets a whooping 21/28. The different isn’t driving style, it is the 5-600lb penalty the GTO has over the Vette. If America can build light cars with fairly efficient engines (ie Honda), they would be dogging the CAFE standard. Imagine if GM could take the LSJ or LNF(Ecotec Supercharged or turbo) and put it in a 2600lb car RWD. . . Fuel mileage would be awesome, handling dynamics would be jaw dropping, and it would sell (if it came from the same design factory as the new Malibu). If the 20-30% drop in material weight were to sweep the Big 3, the road to great changes would be abound.

Here is a little fun fact that i might add.

2007 Cadillac CTS-V: Starting at $53,470
400HP, 15 mpg City / 24 mpg Hwy, RWD

2008 Lancer Evolution X: Starting at $32,990
291HP, 16 mpg city / 22 mpg Hwy, AWD

2008 Corvette: Starting at $46,950 (z06 starts at $72,125)
436HP, 16 mpg city/ 26 mpg Hwy, RWD

2008 Dodge Charger SRT8: Starting at $38,000
425HP, unknown mpg city/ unknown mpg HWY, RWD

Saleens are a JOKE! so i dont even need to start with that. all they are is a mustang with a body kit on them unless you get the s281 supercharghed which is WAAY overpriced.
I guess what im trying to say is if you want performance in america your going to pay big. i could put 20,000 into my EVO and be pushing well over 800Hp and pretty much spend as much as you did on your brand new CTS-V that will break down soon.

LOL.

american pride…

ever heard of the Mitsubishi Evo? guess not..

and jay cee… if you knew how to drive than you wouldnt be worried about getting hit by a hummer.

The corvette is overrated.

along with the dodge r/t’s i mean i like both muscle and Tuner. but honestly awd would kill you guys…

and how much are you paying for your 400 hp luxury? lol.. in the 40′s? i think i will stick with my Evo put 10 grand in it and smoke you at the drag strip. it will be a blast.

I DO like american muscle. im really excited to see what the new camaro can offer. I just think that nobody can disagree that foreign quality is WAY better. WAY affordable and there is sooo much that you can do to them. i mean who wants to pay parts to fix a cadillac?

I looked around for a long time before I bought my car. I researched more cars then you can name. I didn’t have any perticular car in mind, but except that it had to fast, beautiful,luxury interior, good reviews, and well priced. I looked at several imports, honda, acura, nissan, and toyota failed to meet my fast criteria along with the fact that there are a dime a dozen of the cars. The last thing I wanted to do was spend ~$30K and; have the same average car as my neighbor. So this left used BMW M3/M5, used Mercedes ?, and Lexus 07 IS350. After condsidering the parts and labor for the Bmw, Benz, Lexus I decided to look for an american luxury sport. After some research I came across the CTS V. A 400 HP beast that is very refiend and decently fuel effecient (I get 23 MPG on the Interstate @ 80MPH). I would rather get 5 MPG less and have a growling corvette motor that can kill your import). I am very happy with the car. I can put to shame any Honda, Accura, Nissan, or Toyota. Name one stock car of the above imports that can beat my stock CTS V (13.1 Qrt. Mile). Won’t happen (Future Nissan Skyline doesnt count +$80K). So next time any one wants to bash american cars, look up the CTS V, corvette, Dodge SRT’s, or Saleen’s. No import can touch 400 HP Luxury for the same price, Period. Do the research.

Ya know… I’m only 16 and over the course of my life, I’ve seen American quality drop…dramatically. I remember when they used to make stuff that LASTED, a long time. But now, American craftsmanship has declined (I’m not complaining too much, my 02 Taurus is an awesome runner and nothing major has gone wrong with it). But, I think there’s too many complicated computer related conveniences and extra stuff that we just don’t need! I want to find a dependable, economical, long lasting car built in America. American auto makers have been sleeping at the wheel for 10 years now. I think it’s time to wake up! Oh yeah, we also need a good president that understands the positions of middle class people, and is not affiliated with the oil business!

i think all you “rice rocket lovers” are plain jane blinded from these gas prices, such scary asses when it comes to saving a few pennys at the pump, why dont you think about this. would you rather live after a 50mph accident being hit by a big bad ass american car. or would you rather be dead with 1.30 in your pocket richer, cause you were more worried about saving gas than saving your life…..i rather drive my bad ass 71 chevy monte carlo and put gas every three days than getting killed in a honda @ 35mph accident cause i got hit by a hummer trying and crying to save gas…stupids!!!!

im so glad your all posting shit on this website and not actually doing anything about it. its time for the next revolution.

I remember back to the early 60′s when each car was a design of its own character. People would fight to get the latest AMERICAN car and helped the big 3 to become world leaders. The fallout start in the mid 70′s when they started to shrink down and make economy cars with the names of the great classic cars like the Mustang II. Believing that the Europein cars were better built with the new 4cyl and gas saving designs. The good small cars slowly was molded into the same fashion as every other car on the market. Now the American auto makers are just stamping cars out without any thought in them and loosing the market because of it. We have the ability to remake those classic cars once again with designs and the power everyone wants without loosing fuel mpgs. These V-6′s have power and can be slid inside of nice cars that are built with some thought to them and quality. We AMERICANS must stand up and retake the market demanding great quality and new design’s to make the cars stand out once more.

i definitely agree with leno. But the manufacturers have to start building their products with the same quality as the imports. I have an ’04 escalade and to tell the truth, i regret buying it. there are so many problems with it and it all started happening right after the warranty expired. I guess GM knows that their vehicles start breaking down after the 4 year term is up and thats why they offer it for four years unlike some imported brands that offer 8-10 years warranty. American companies NEED to start integrating their vehicles with better quality, technology AND importantly, FUEL ECONOMY!!

I’ve got no problem buying American but honestly, when it comes to modifying. Imports all the way. I know some ignorant 16 year old will probably flame me on this but that’s because they haven’t thought it through.

Sure, being a male, I love muscle cars just as much as the next guy. But really. Why would I buy a Mustang, Camaro, or even Z06 and get 20-25 miles to the gallon, and a stock 200-300 HP or 500 for the Z06; when I can go out and buy a Honda Civic Si for a fraction of the price, still packing quite a punch of HP for a small car, and get 30+ MPG. Not to mention the modability of a Civic. Modded or not, a Hondas MPG will leave American in the dust.

And now to defend my view point on “imports”
Most people out there that call all Hondas with any mods done (practical or not) “ricers,” you’re extremely ignorant. Hondas are the #1 AMERICAN MADE car now. And I promise you… I know plenty of VTECs that will leave American muscle in the dust not only in a race, but in practicality. Can you use a muscle car for a family get around car? No.

I agree with Jay Leno. Buy American! If you don’t support the American manufacturers and the American workers that build US cars, who will?

Hey John HanCOCK;

Did you know America was founded by the Genocide of Native Americans and built on the backs of African Slaves! I love America; may “GOD” and every other imaginary friend bless it, it’s Nukes, W.O.M.D, as Bush would say, and its love for 500hp engines that can take you from point A to point B. Same as a inline4 engine can.

BUDZ

I agree American auto companies need to step up their game, their quality sucks. My first car was american a Pontiac Grand AM GT coupe and it suckedMy 2nd car was a Honda Accord and let me tell you i have been driving for 8 years now and i wont buy anything else, Hondas quality,style and performance is great. Dont get me wrong i have driven some of the newer american made cars but the quality and performance STILL need to improve but they have gotten better.If you want quality style and performance go with Japanese made cars

Its an interesting situation for the US automakers. They really need to get on the ball and start developing small and mid sized cars and working on efficient powerful lines of 4 cylinder engines. Right now refinement and wow factor are becoming less important and being able to afford to drive them is more important. I think it will take many years for the market to finally switch to small cars because some people seem hell bent on keeping their SUV’s or changing to “crossovers” that are kinda the worst of both worlds, but its gonna happen. What has happened over the past 10 years is interesting, considering compact cars today get mileage that was common on midsized cars ten years ago, like the Caliber and Focus getting low 30s on the highway, but then again they weight about as much as one too. My 99 neon gets high 30s to 40 on the highway, but then again it is missing many luxuries that people seem to see as nessesity. If they American car companies want to survive, thier bread and butter is gonna have to be small or midsized cars with 4 bangers and 5 or 6 speed transmissions. I dont think the cars have to even be fast, I just think they have to get good fuel economy and be affordable.

I think Chevy with its Malibu and Cobalt is the closest in line with what is needed, if they can actually get teh Aveo to get the kind of milage a car its size should then they could be in good shape when people start buying those cars over SUV’s. All Ford really has to do is bring thier cars from Europe to the US as the market shifts. Chrysler, my favorite American Brand is in huge trouble. They killed off thier only compact, the Neon, for the Caliber which gets about the same milage as their Avenger. Unless they can revamp thier midsized line, and get a compact on the market, they will fall off big time.

Whoever said we had to drive fuel effecient cars ? Its bullshit. I would be willing to bet anyone that if American made cars got 150 miles to the gallon it still wouldnt be enough for the global warming crowd and there would still be an oil crisis. You know why ??? Because OPEC says there is and that is the only damn reason. and Jay , shut the hell up. What made this country great? I will tell you , one thing and one thing only – It is America. And America has a proud history of being the greatest at what ever it does , including making cars. Untill red blooded Americans are willing to accept their God given right and plant their asses behind the wheel of 450 Hp and be damn proud that it is MADE IN THE USA then we are doomed to drive rice burners and give support and comfort to our enemies. Untill the corruptive influence of politics is out of it our automobile industry might as well hang it up. We dont have a prayer competeing with imports and coutries that pay their people a fourth of what our people make. The bottom line to all you follow the leader ass kissers out there. there is more oil under our soil and off our shores than the rest of the world combined. that my friends is a fact that most of you dont know. the other thing you wont hear discussed is that it is to our governments adavatage not the American public mind you ! but the governments advantage to keep showering the Saudis with blood money while at the same time playing patty cake with environmentalists. and by the way, China dont give a crap about no global warming. in the words of Johnny Ringo “Tombstone” they want our blood and will do anything to see us bleed including plunging the world into an economic hell the likes of which not even Wal-Mart could recover from. People , get some Balls !!! Our Freedon and The American Spirit. I love it , dont you ?

John Hancock

Good points but other aspects that continues to turn off US consumers is terrible service and lack of innovative design. Chrysler has consistent product identity but I can’t distinguish Ford and GM products. Hire independent designers to bring in fresh ideas. I’ve heard so many service nightmares for years that turned away even the most loyal GM and Ford customers. As a solution I would break up the divisions so each would be independent focusing on their unique market and become more competitive in nature. To be more cost competitive, the government should subsidized just as Asian government does for their companies. These ideas could level the playing field and give the consumer real choice.

I have no problem buying north american cars, but on one condition. that they make a car they are proud of. Companies like BMW and Merc. drive the cars they make, they are proud of the product they make and want it to be the best product they can make it. yes they are expensive. But would you expect a car that is that much more cared for, and with so much more effort put into it to be priced the same as the junk everyone else is pawning off. my trouble with both auto makers from all over but primarily from north america, is that they sell you any piece of crap your willing to pay good money for and only when you stop paying good money for them do they bother to do anything about upgrading or advancing their cars. and also my trouble is with thick headed north americans that are dumb enough to be used like that. most of the american makers do not put out the same junk to the rest of the world. even ford! all their european and abroad models are stuff we wish we could get here .. but the hill billies still keep buying the crap happily so thats what we get. i just say stop throwing your money away like fools and demand something better. everyone else is getting it why shouldnt you?

Def agree cars are getting crazy, package this upgraded package that, soon we’ll be paying for a sunfire thats a dually quad turbo charged for an easy 100,000 with a small payments of 1,000 a month for the rest of your life. Power isnt everything, making cars straight off the line with 500hp redick. Cars have no heart like they use to, you should be able to upgrade the way u want and not pay out the noise to have a nice car. Thats why over seas cars are kicking are butt

BUY A HOUSE OR BUY A CAR WHAT DO I DO!!!!!

I’d be curious if an automaker specifically advertised a new model car based on its simplicity on good design, expected longevity, economy and ease of personal modification. How awesome would that be? Or am I partly describing a Scion?

Trouble with $4.21 a gallon? America is going to be screwed in the long run! The whole US was built on the fact that oil was cheap and plentiful, so it’s going to be hard for you guys to deal with it. Even if you magically found a huge oil reserve tomorrow, the price is still going to go up because of India and China. I strongly suggest you sell your SUV as soon as possible before prices drop.

Take a look at the UK, we pay (the equivalent of) over $12 per gallon, and still have trouble paying to run our 1.4 litre cars.

Although American cars are cooler and more flamboyant, European cars are much more advanced and refined: we have much better safety and way more fuel efficiency. The average Euro hatchback gets many more miles than the Prius, but still delivers performance from fewer than 1.6 litres.

I think jay’s right i want something sporty, stylish, and cheap and something i can work on in the garage just like ol times, make it about the man and his machine again, restore that feeling. theres nothing better than buying parts for your car and when Saturday rolls around putting them on YOURSELF…. i have a VW and im scared half to deth to touch it because of all the sensors wires and electronics. Now i know this stuff add alot of conveniece but come on!!!!! The first auto company that makes about a person connecting with his or her car again will win the auto rat race.

wow pretty true but i think the American car maker’s need to work on better engine’s instead of looks . I know for one ill never get a chevy or ford car for a very long time . Ya they make good trucks but when i see almost as many broke down caviler’s as i do its kinda unapealing espeacily if there 2000+ Models..

Now as for some of the post’s iv seen about the war . WOW some car domain user’s obviously watch ALOT of FOX new’s . The war wasent started due to 9/11 that was simply propaganda . This war had nothing to do with terrorism it was due to ” Weapons of mass destruction ” lol

Mike…you are a dolt.

Hey kevin this is true however look at the price difference the rsx is alot more expensive than the cobalt ss, not to mention mods. I’ve seen cobalts ss run good numbers with very few and cheap mods the rsx is too expensive to modify without the same results.

Is everyone stupid! We went to war so we could show the terrorists who is boss! If you are complianing about the war America is in then move to France! See how you like it there! You dont realize how lucky you are to be Americans!

A stupid war started over oil? 911 dumb ass.. Did this nation forget already?

wake the hell up america if it wasnt for “good ole” G.W. Bush and his cronies starting frigging wars they will never win for OIL no one in the world would be paying what is being paid now and what the fuck are you complaining about?? europe is paying 1.56Euro for Petrol REMEMBER the euro is worth twice of what the U.S.$ is and Australians pay that in AU$ and we are only 4c less than your $$ and when you compaire what is being paid by you lot and so it works out that you only pay about $1.10 per liter and as for crappy cars that also come from there OMG when you got the HOLDEN MONARO there as the pontiac GTO yas complained that it wasnt good enough for the pontiac badge….hahahahahaha we think its the other way around the pontiac badge isnt good enough to be placed on the Monaro and this is where it getting even funnier now the Holden Commadore SS is being sold there as a Pontiac G8 GT and the humble ole Holden UTE will be there soon too maybe Ford should get in on it and sell the Falcon GT there…Ive driven the last model Falcon(2007)and when i arrived in Europe i looked at a new Mustang and drove it and well for a “perfomance” car it was shit…it handled like a boat full of holes it didnt perform to the hype that they have and so Im looking into getting a Falcon GT brought here from Australia and converted to LH drive so I drive a proper MUSCLE CAR!!!!!….n.b. maybe when all of you people learn to spell properly too the standards might improve in the auto sector as well… but that is just a hint in the future for yaaaalll imbiciles

when it comes to efficiency and power, i wanto to see more DIESEL! i’ve seen first hand with pull competition trucks and my buddies who run 2 trucks, the one pushes over 700 HP, and still street driveable at almost 20 mpg, this is a truck he built in his garage in his spare time, someone build a similarily designed motor but 4 cylinder, could push like 250 horsepower at 40 mpg

think about it: a 2005 acura rsx has 201 hp n/a and gets 21 mpg and weighs 2400 lbs. a 2005 chevy cobalt ss supercharged makes 205 hp and is (suprisingly) supercharged and gets about 19 mpg and weighs 2800 lbs. if honda supercharged their engines, they would be pushing an easy 270 hp.

Well the big 3 need to realize people want cars that they can actually work on in their garages or parking lot. Not this crap with tons of sensors lol. And we need American cars that can run forever like gm cars from the 80s. I still see 80s cavys on the road running like new!
But they dont have to cater to me right now because honda has my business until the domestics and keep up lol.

I agree with Jay. Cars are poorly made with more junk in them. Like when ford came out with sync, good god. you know how much all the wiring and doodads must weigh? Power everthing, 20″ wheels, a million flippen sensors, and it doesn’t feel like your driving anything special. Thats why 30MPG is an achievement. Because all the cars weigh more and are suffocating with sensors and emmissions crap. Make a good car that goes from point A to B. Not 15 air bags and heated and cooled glove boxes where everything lights up. If the people want that, They can do it themselves.

well i look at it the same as he does. i wonder to myself, what rival for the wrx and evo have anyone come up with? the srt-4 caliber? the cobalt ss? oh boy, what choices compared to what you get otherwise. plus, the whole CRX thing is making alot of people angry. 50 MPG in the 80s with a cheap old econo box. now we have to hybrid everything just to get that economy, and thats a struggle. what it boils down to is less quality materials and more electronics. Thats whats really hurting the Economy. gadgets. Think about all the crap they cram into cars now. I bet if we went back to basic needs such as a Stereo, a/c, power steering, power brakes, and two air bags, the world would be that much better. I could go on for hours, but i’ll put it simply. Jay is right. Everyone has to pull there head out there ass and think different. You, me, Jay, the president, we all have to. Rethink!

Okay first off with hig oil prices ya it sucks but its fuel and it price and demand is governed by us wether american or canadian citizen we are the ones pushing the price higher even though most of it is tax. And for the fued between import vs domestic its a two way street, ibelieve that evry on should support what is built and developed in there country, i personally drive Ford vehicles, and there cars are very advanced its just not noticed with over head cam engines in tucks ans double over head cam engines in cars, police cruiser are nine out of ten crown vics wonder why? even gm with their vortech series of engines that are amazing on fuel and produce massive power, and warranties by all of the american companies are atleast 100 000 miles why buy a a jap? toyota just released a a service bullitin 0on Tundra pick ups for the frame craking there’s quality right there, along with torque converter failliar and other problems, and theyre fuel milleage sucks. in deffence of the imports the early models of Japs were a quality product and with plants in nort america we are supporting our countries, earlt toyota pik ups are indestructible, theres no way arround it. at the end its personal prefrence And for me its domestic, for two reasons, i believe that the quality is there along with performance, theres’ good reasoning why there are no jap performance trucks they cant build em, it come down to torque and horse power, and ill tyake a well bulit 302 or 350 over any high reving 22re any day. Long live domestics

with the technology of automakers today there is no damn reason why they can’t get at least 30 MPG with just about anything! and this hybrid crap aint worth nothing, costs ya your retirement plan for the car and you will only gain from it if you do like 600 city miles a day and even then it’ll take like 12 years to earn back what you paid for the car compared to a regular sedan. I bet it’s the oil companies for sure have ties with the automobile industry and that is why things are how it is and fuel economy can be GOOD but still isn’t GREAT! Lose Bush and things will be great, I can smell it!

maybe we should stop voting for those communist liberals that make up stupid environmental laws that burden the auto industry. it happened in the 70s and now its happening again. let us drill our own fucking oil and stop the oil gouging. the only reason american cars are cheap is because of the stupid regulations, and yes they are stupid.

The only way American cars will make a comeback in this country is exactly along the lines of Leno’s words. Cheap and efficient. However, keeping the quality high is where GM and Ford fail extensively. If you were compare the standards available on a Toyota compared to a GM, the GM would get walked all over all day long. Right now Detroit automanufacturers seem way too obsessed with making the exteriors of their cars look good, just so they can draw in new buyers. The engines and electronics and everything else in their cars are absolutely terrible. Your best bang for your buck for right now is to buy an import, dont be dumb and buy a domestic “to support the economy” just be smart.

Also, domestics need to get rid of the leaf-spring suspensions on their cars…. do they realize thats the technology that was used in the 1840′s?

jake you are dumb as shit and need to learn basic spelling and grammar

We have become so lazy that every single right we have is fading fast. Kinda funny how we broke off from england and yet set up bullshit laws and tax the fuck out of are selfs. I say get rid of all the imports. If there gonna ban are beef then we will band there POS cars.

hey man thats a nice car but you need to put out a plymouth roadrunner see you later JAY

The problem with American car companies are they did’nt change with the times. If you ask a guy what’s under the hood 20 years ago he would rattle off a list of things you ask now and they have no clue but they’ll tell you about their nav system.We are more worried about the pretty things on the inside than powertrain. which in my opinion U.S.A rules in. Product loyality is another problem. I had a Ford escort i gave to my niece it has over 200,000 mi on it. I drive a Mustang GT with 150,000 mi on it without any major problems.

HAHAHAHAHA you guys are freakin hilarious especially you Baron, “Well said from a guy that can afford 4.21 a gallon for gas”. you americans are soo freakin sad! I live in canada and right now gas is $1.45 a liter! which is $5.80 a gallon! and yet every canadian still drives! we are paying $1.61 a gallon more than you guys and i love watching tv! watching you americans complain about how you cant afford to go anywhere or do anything lol cause of the HIGH EXPENSIVE GAS! HA! im 21 with a 2008 jeep wrangler and i pay close to $140 a week for gas! and i couldnt care less! and neither do any other canadians! before you guys complain about gas, you should think about what its like everywhere else! pu$$y’s!

I agree! The problem with automakers in America is that they want to build cheap cars, fast, and sell them for as much as they can. When they need to be building well-designed cheap cars sold at a price that is competitive as well as marketable. And although it’s gotten better, Ford needs new models to help bring them back from their 6 billion dollar deficit from a couple of years ago. The Mustang alone can’t do it, not with today’s gas prices. I’m talking about Civic-like longevity with Jeep-like durability. We can do it, there’s no doubting that, maybe new automakers in America is the true answer! New young, daring individuals who aren’t afraid to fail and throw something different, like the 3 graduate students that produced the Hummer HX Concept! Time for a change perhaps.

look all that ford gm and all american auto makers have to do is make smaller and chipper cars with better mpg I have a toyota yaris and I get 40 mpg and 42 with a trd air fillter and tornado fuel saver I was going to get a cobalt but it gets 32 mpg so I went with the yaris,all american auto maker do is make big truck and fast cars that are relly tursty cars with todays economy smaller is better

I am an american so I buy american 67 mustang 96 F150 06 trailblaser and harley. I just can’t buy a toyoda even if there 1/2 the price because I depond on american business for my job
Please Be an American Buy American …You can make more money but there is only ONE America
Plus when our contry is in trouble and needs a helping hand the american car companys have been there with there pockets open like Sept 11 and the others laughing at all the money they made off the stupid americans.

we need to take care of our own

GOD BLESS AMERICA

Well said from a guy that can afford 4.21 a gallon for gas. Right now the economy is based on cheap fuel efficiant cars. When gas goes down the quality of cars go up. Did we not learn anything from the 70′s? What is going on right now is exactly what the Terrorists (OPEC) want to happen. Our economy is based on oil, and oil is killing our economy. So if Mr. Leno wants to pay for all of my gasoline then I will go right out and buy a gas guzzling american car ASAP. That is all.

I think it’s very telling when Ford’s advertisement is “Now our quality is as good as a Toyota”. That just about says it all. I will return to buying American when American car companies start building great cars. I own 3 Toyota vehicles, a Camry, Tundra and a Tacoma. I expect to get collectively 600,000 miles out of these vehicles. I expect that because of past performance of the Toyota vehicles I’ve owned. I’ve owned about every make of so called “American Made” vehicle. Experience told me at 100,000 miles I better be looking for a trade. I bought Toyota because of price, reliability, quality, and performance. I have not been disappointed. I’m not purchasing a vehicle with the thought of supporting some overpaid union man and his family by buying American. I’m concerned with my family and our expenses. Moving to Toyota has allowed me to run vehicles long after the note at the bank has been paid. For me and my family it has saved us a lot of money in the last several years. Jay’s right American car companies have to change.

I’m gonna go with the crowd on this one and agree with Jay on this issue. With Ford, Chevy, and Dodge, if you want a big flashy car with a lot of power… then yeah, that’s the way to. The “Big 3″ have their signature trucks and sports cars that we can all agree are top notch, for the most part. But they work with their respective gas guzzling V8 motors. But when it comes down to your 4 cylinder to V6 four door sedans which are aimed at people with families, the choices are really just here and there. Everyone wants quality with great gas milage. However, it’s not just mpg that people consider. Resale value is a major factor. Honda, Nissan, and Toyota cars still sell for a considerable amount even after 100k to 150k miles on it. Most people I know won’t go near a Ford Taurus or a Chevy Cavalier with that many miles on it. Look at the euro cars like BMW. Their cars still hold a higher price tag for something with 200k on the car than most domestic sedans with 50k less on the car. The majority of us know that a good nissan or honda car will run well past the 250k mark is treated well. It’s been my experience that a lot of domestic sedans (family vehicles) are good for the intial buy, where as the imports look just as good and run just as well as the domestics, but stay with it for the long haul. But it comes down to reliability. Show me a domestic built with the same quailty that the imports have that would allow for the same longevity as well as be worth half of what I paid for it 5 years down the road and I might go back to them.

why don’t they just start marketing their forgiegn made cars as american. Hell most “US” cars are made over seas or in other countries. While most “Foriegn” cars are more american and apeal that way …toyota, bmw , benz, maybe soon VW, build mainly in the south US. Meanwhile ford and GM steady ship jobs to mexico and china. I’m a Mazda man maybe ford should just start marketing it as MADE IN THE USA. since none of their other shit is. If you want to attrack buyers you have to get them young with the cheaper cool looking more economic cars, start adding more teeny bopper features like louder stereos, and cool looking inside. My first car was a Mazda and I wouldn’t own anything else, but it sucks that US jobs i support is the big wigs ,6 figure A-holes. In short bring jobs back to the US and try to appeal to the young buyers.

I agree with Jay with what he has to say. For the past several decades, America has come up with poor quality cars and that happened at a time when the Japanese were improving on theirs. Car technology has taken an overturn. When before it was the Japs who patterned their designs on the Ameircans, now it is the Americans who are trying to keep up with those Japs. These Japs copied AND IMPROVED what we today call is the CAR. As one proof, they, the Japs, call their front suspensions the “MacPherson” type struts up to now. Only, they have made a lot of headway in improving it. On a lighter side, I’ve seen a lot of improvements in the quality and design of some American cars lately and these new cars can easily compete with the imports in every aspect. Take for example the Malibu (hooray to GM). It’s come out with a very nice model this year, I would say far better than its Japanese counterparts. Owners are happy and satisfied, as I have seen and read from some of them here in the domain. So with the other compact models. So, the problem now, I would say, is no longer in the quality and design of American cars versus the imports. The main problem that local manufacturers have to deal with now, I would say, is the mind-set of the buying public. Jay is very right in saying that the majority of present buyers now are “oriented” with the Hondas, the Toyotas, etc. And retuning their minds towards buying local cars is gonna be a very big feat. It’s gonna take them as long to bring that mind-set back as the way they turned the minds of people towards the imports. Decades. Because that is also the amount of time they spent coming up with poorly designed low-quality local cars. With due respect to Honda, I would choose the Malibu if I were there. I just love the interior amenities of that car. Ford? It has yet to come up with a better medium sized sedan. And don’t forget the Koreans. Many say they are crappy cars but, agree with me or not, they have definitely come of age and have started making their presence felt in the world market today. And that is another challenge for the local American cars. Bottomline is, nationalism. Buy local and help your economy and yourselves out. Although, sad to say, that word has long been dead. Cheers!!!

Also a quick note, I said i believe in helping the ECONOMY. look at what JAY is leaning on in that pic! Let’s make good decisions people and purchase GM’s not inferior AMERICAN PRODUCTS! Why doesnt the competition offer HYBRID full size vehicles if your all scared about gas?

I really dont see american car companies hurting that bad! We just swapped the TACOMA for an 07 SILVERADO! and Im finally purchaasing that CADDY truck, so they cant say noone is buying cars! I dont really know about other communities but here in RENO We arent real comcerned with gas prices even though its really high HERE! We still take the boat out and drive our v-8′s. In my opinion the AMERICAN car companies have better looking cars than all the JAP’s and i own a LEXUS!!!!!!!! I love my LEXO and really dont want anything smaller than my GS! With the economy the way it is i dont feel downsizing is the answer, I believe in working harder, and making better financial decisions to keep helping the economy, not buying little foreign products! I love BIMMER but hey CADILLAC needs my cash more!

I laugh. Take a look at what arguably is the biggest showcase of “American” automotive manufacturers: NASCAR. And guess what, the only domestically made vehicle in the field? Yes, the Toyota Camry. IMO, it’s hard to support Detroit when they themselves are out buying parts outside of the US.

Yep he is correct that pretty much sum’s up why I stoped buying domestic I tried all 3 domestic companies and one was more crappier then the other.For now I buy asian cars and my problems with my cars went to none pretty much I have some with low miles and I have some that are in the 100 to 200 thousand mile mark and they keep going with no prob.If the domestic companies start making us here some good cars again I will consider getting one till then I’ll stick with my imports.

Jay’s right. There’s no question that companies are going to have to reduce the size and/or reduce the weitht of cars and trucks to meet governmental dictated economy standards. And that’s okay, as long as the same quality that is evidenced in today’s larger cars/trucks is carried-over into those smaller vehicles. If the largest passenger sedan produced by a U.S. manufacturer was the size of today’s Honda Accord anyone could live with it. IF the largest engine made was a V6, okay. V8s would be installed only in specialty vehicles (like Corvettes and work trucks) since ‘sporty cars’ and pickup trucks – smaller than today’s versions – would be equipped with V6s. Look at the progress Ford is making on V6 technology. They see the future and realize that fuel economy is going to dictate what will sell to the public, especially as gasoline in this country rises to the same levels as those paid in European and Asian countries. We’re heading towards $8.00 / gallon gas whether we like it or not and smaller, more fuel-efficient, lighter weight cars and trucks are going to have be offered consumers if we’re to remain a mobile society as dependent on cars and trucks as we have been for the past nearly 100 years.

Whats quality control? Not so much as economy but more like cheaper gas! The style of today has doomed most cars, really. All new American cars are really ginormous with the small windows, crapload of safety features(c’mon when you get into a car, you know the risks so be responsible and reap what you sow, you crash? break some bones! Its the least you can do for what your car suffered too!)and whats really ironic is you got those huge cars with little engines, they should be ashamed!Makes me wonder if we’ll be having to enlarge the clearance under bridges!American motor companies should really look into the past and see just what strategies really worked, and fix those strategies to match our time! Its okay grandpa will only scold you and beat your balls a little for asking his advice, and maybe you’ll learn what really sold cars! Corvette > Ferrari.