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July 2, 2008
IIHS Wants To Throw The Book At SUV Bumpers
By Jen Dunnaway
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In case you were concerned that the beleaguered SUV and truck market doesn’t have enough to worry about right now, here’s a curveball: the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety is advocating new regs that would bring truck, SUV, and van bumpers down to the level of regular passenger cars. It might make for some funny-looking new SUV’s, and would certainly take a bite out of the larger vehicles’ ground clearance, one of their few remaining selling points. But it kind of makes sense: I’m sure it’s no fun getting your radiator mashed into your engine, or all your rear lights smashed out, in the course of some minor collision with an SUV or truck simply because its bumper isn’t the same height as yours. And the insurance companies aren’t thrilled about the higher payouts that result from such accidents, either. What do you think? Should new bumper rules be imposed on new trucks and SUV’s, or should the insurance companies (i.e., everyone who pays into a car insurance plan) just suck it up?
Source: Kicking Tires.
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TJ
Jul 22, 2008 at 4:11 am
Why the hell do people think that the world revolves around them (In this case car drivers) if they want it to be safer, then just get an SUV and stop bitchin’
Ken B
Jul 17, 2008 at 10:01 am
Life is not Fair! Thats what my little kids would say to me. And thats what I here with the whole bumper argument. People that drive only cars want the rest of world to sit on the ground just they do. Well too bad, life if NOT fair. So grow up, stop cring and live with it. Cars and trucks will never and should never be the same.
land_rover_defy
Jul 15, 2008 at 8:21 am
well i think that the idea is dumb! We should all get F1 for the streets,raised few cm from the ground!with an extra of a full bumper all around,just like go carts!then take the engine of the f1 and place a 1.3liter engine instead!
Pballer2005
Jul 14, 2008 at 6:28 pm
why only reinforce the bumper, just make every vehicle with a full roll cage…
Rave Racer
Jul 12, 2008 at 7:04 am
I think everyone is missing the point. The bumpers need to be the same height, not because of payouts but because in highspeed accidents, cars drivers are killed more often. So why ONLY lower the truck bumpers? Just find a middle ground and make a standard height, even if that means raising the cars bumpers a little to accomodate the truck market. It won’t matter anyway in the long run, markets change, aftermarket will lower cars and trucks and raise others to ungodly levels, aged car and truck suspensions will sag and it will all fluctuate anyway. One more thing, for the love of God Glen, learn to spell.
Glen
Jul 12, 2008 at 2:56 am
Dumbstthing i ever heard of, tlowr th bumper on and suv, too many suv’s sit too low as it isho cares that if you hita smart car you take its roof off. that is theirproblem, i am all for a truck to sit as high a it should for good grund clearance alth lower bumper will man is te sunds of scrapin as you leave a parking lot, wo cares and who evertough of lowering the bumper should be ran over!
Mike
Jul 12, 2008 at 2:56 am
Cars suck buy a truck!
Villain
Jul 12, 2008 at 1:52 am
It doesn’t matter much now, with everybody rushing to buy the tin can hybrids now anyway. Besides, even if this did pass it wouldn’t change the actual vehicles for another ten to fifteen years, at which time we’ll scoff at what George Orwell called “Wasters” anyway.
1984 may have been a few decades off, but it gets to be a creepier read every day.
Ryan
Jul 10, 2008 at 8:35 am
If i wanted a vehicle with 4 wheel drive and no ground clearance I’d buy a subaru wagon. why would they try to do this to an already struggling market
Jesse
Jul 10, 2008 at 6:11 am
This is STUPID!!! What happens when we get 2 feet of snow? or go up in the mountains to hike, climb, hunt, etc… and you can’t get very far cause you hit all the bumps, rocks, and stumps? Plus they’ll start making some dumb looking SUVs and trucks. What’s next? raised cars, lowered trucks, no window tint, no loud exhaust, where does it end? they’ve taken so much, how much more can they take?
Pep
Jul 9, 2008 at 4:00 pm
stupid. Insurance companies are all about money. If they see an area where they are having to pay out they want to change the rules so they can roll in more dough. They sell it to the public about being about safety. What a crock.
Alex
Jul 8, 2008 at 9:12 pm
while their at it why tell the car companies to stop making everything. And send them standards so every car on the road will exactly the same, with rubber ring around it like bumpercars.
just another example of regulations being forced on every one because of a few who not have the common sense and need to be told like two year olds “Don’t do that or you’ll get hurt…….”
frank
Jul 7, 2008 at 1:27 pm
>>This is ridiculous, what about the farmers
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It is called service vehicles, service vehicles should only be allowed in personal areas, or on specially designated roads.
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such as tractors being legal on farm to market roads, but not freeways.
sam
Jul 7, 2008 at 1:22 pm
I think they should have done this over 10 years ago when it was more than just a gesture of goodwill towards people who have been bitching about this for 20 years.
SUVs are on their way out, sure this is another nail in their coffin, but this is something that should have been addressed YEARS ago.
Dhillaz
Jul 5, 2008 at 4:30 pm
This is ridiculous, what about the farmers and people that SUVs were designed for? If all SUVs are lowered, you may as well go around your fields in a Honda Accord.
There is a simpler solution: rather than lowering the whole car, you could just design the protruding frame that takes the impact at the same level as an ordinary car.
Trever
Jul 4, 2008 at 12:23 am
Just Kick all the damn suv’s off the road who needs them anyway
chris
Jul 3, 2008 at 12:23 pm
fuck that. thats retarded, whats the point of an SUV without some clearance? you’ll get a minivan…or one of the retarded “cross-overs” or a station wagon. i’m not hating on those cars, but they all have their intended purpose.
don’t change the bumper its a bad idea, as if the SUV/4×4 market wasn’t hurting enough right now
Heidi
Jul 2, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Hell yes. About freaking time if they do go through with this.
Devo
Jul 2, 2008 at 6:52 pm
Or howabout raising the bumpers on cars?! *Gasp*
Charles
Jul 2, 2008 at 6:08 pm
good bye capitalism.
anon
Jul 2, 2008 at 5:25 pm
even the 40 year old jayne mansfield accident revealed what tractor trailers had to do to conform to this. “ICC” bars, the big chrome scary front bumper riding low isn’t just a hick truck driver announcing a chromed pride. And as for ground clearance, American trucks have been the laughing stock of true 4×4 enthusiasts and source of extreme tires that belong in a cartoon, ya know what I mean? Bring the bumpers down anytime, including those retarded headlights…exactly the height of a mirror since my dawn of driving, in ALL cars it is annoying from pickups.Not even tractor trailers get as annoying as wht the suv/pickups do creeping ip on me.
Highspeedhijinks
Jul 2, 2008 at 3:27 pm
What does it matter. Work for a body shop for 15 minutes and you’ll see right away that bumpers in todays unibody cars mean nothing. Truck bumpers attached to full frames will always hold up better. Plus after you factor in speed and ussually an awkward hit angle and again it just makes bumpers useless.
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Govt mandated standards have been ruining styling since the 70’s. This is just par for the course
Stewart
Jul 2, 2008 at 2:17 pm
It might make sense for delivery vans and some trucks,
but isn’t the SUV issue moot?
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I don’t really see big SUVs as a part of America’s future.
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Gas prices have taken care of that.
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I agree that the government needs to find something better to do.
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This is kinda late, isn’t it???
dodahman
Jul 2, 2008 at 2:06 pm
yet another reason not to buy a new vehicle. I’ll stick with my old lifted jeep.
i_luv_dusty
Jul 2, 2008 at 1:01 pm
I think the government needs to find something better to do with our tax dollars.
Jeremy
Jul 2, 2008 at 11:31 am
I’d be pretty pissed if i had to worry about a truck’s bumper scraping curbs and stuff. The ride height is what makes it a truck to me, if you bring it down that much its not a truck, its just a beefed up el camino. Of coursed i’d just lift the truck anyway, something i’m sure a lot of new truck buyers would do should this happen. Slammed 4×4’s-now thats just ridiculous.