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September 2, 2008
Had Much Luck With "Kwik Boots"? I Sure Haven't…
By Jen Dunnaway
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It’s always one of those pro/con situations, whether to replace an entire half-shaft or "just" swap on a new CV boot. What if there’s just a hairline crack in your original boot, you’ve hardly lost any grease, and you know the joint is still good? To me it seems wasteful to replace the entire shaft when all you need is a boot. At the last shop I worked in, we had one of those lovely spreaders that’d quite nearly ploink a replacement CV boot on for you. But my former shop is an entire continent away now, so I decided to try out one of the joe-shmoe semi-universal boots. More…
It was an exciting bright blue affair (not pictured), made by Dorman, that came in two halves. It’s been said that replacement-CV-boot technology has come a long way, and I wanted to believe. It was fun enough at first—with the little tubes of glue and grease and the interlocking seam, assembling the two halves was kind of like a grade-school craft project. But keep in mind, no matter what your skill level, the install is anything but "kwik"—you glue up the first seam, then have to wait at least an hour for it to cure. Then factor in another hour’s cure time after you glue the second seam once you’ve installed it around the half-shaft.
Speaking of that, the installation of the boot on the car was where things really started turning into a wrestling match. The instructions’ frequent exhortation to keep from getting grease on any of the gluey surfaces was a farce, because the entire point of a CV joint is to be all grease, all the time—it’s going to be a mess no matter what, but if you get any grease in the seam, the seam won’t cure properly. Catch-22, right? Also, the boot didn’t really fit—the openings were both huge—though it included what the manufacturer clearly thought was a clever little adapter that turned out to be basically impossible to install, given the clearances and the grease. And finally, the extremely flimsy lie-flat clamps included with the kit turned out to be too bulky to even clear the lower control arm, so it was clear that my boot was going to be lying in the road if I tried to drive so much as a block following the install.
Hey, it’s not like I’ve got the world’s greatest skills, and I’d love nothing more to be told that I’m doing it wrong—then I could blame myself instead of the boot, and I wouldn’t have to feel like a sucker for buying it. But this really seems to be one of those products that any given person will buy only once—and even so, the company will still make enough money to stay in business. The verdict: always be wary of any product that purports to make your life easier. If you really want you life to be easier, just replace the freakin’ half-shaft.
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79cord
Sep 5, 2008 at 6:07 am
I’ve ‘just’ replaced the CV boot on some if my cars before successfully when I spotted it early enough, before too much rubbish got in.
But still went for proper boots that meant removing & disassembling the driveshaft to get them on… Have heard of silicone based boots flexible enough to stretch over the CV joint to say dis-assembly, & seen some older ‘bolt-togeather’ boots. But like you say the mess of grease makes the idea of ‘glue-togeather’ boots seem absurd.
GTwildfire
Sep 2, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Cracked boots aren’t the only way to assess the health of CV joints, although I’ve always opted to replace the whole thing when the boots crack there have been times I knew the joints were still in very decent shape. Ended up being like throwing away the bananas cause there were a couple brown spots on the peels… conventional wisdom sometimes throws out the baby with the bathwater.
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now if there’s shaking, well you’d be able to tell that from behind the wheel by vibration, road noise or both. I’ve never had a problem recognizing when a CV joint needed replacement.
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I’ve even had CV’s go when the boots were still GOOD. ‘splain that…
Anonymous
Sep 2, 2008 at 2:15 pm
definately replace the shaft. A ripped boot comes from shaking steel if no obvious signs are present. I fell for it more than once to just replace the boot. It is never just the boot…it will fail again. Like the boot under a gear shifter. Nothing hits it, but one is ripped, as past advice goes, if you got a ripped gear shift boot stop the shaking engine. Half shafts are tricky the same.
atomicalex
Sep 2, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Girl, you have more brains than that!
I just did a really really messy axle on my Rabbit to avoid fooling with the bad joint. Two hours of greasy fun, one bad Craftsman ratchet (got a replacement the next day), and I’m good for at least a few years.
GTwildfire
Sep 2, 2008 at 12:41 pm
I bet if someone with enough intelligence, automotive knowledge and inspiration worked on a viable CV boot replacement, a useable one could be invented.
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Glue however couldn’t be part of that equation. It would have to be a dry assembly solution. Boots like the one you tried to use are just marketed to those who are desperate to avoid CV replacement. I bet they sell well.