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Sentyabr 26, 2008
Tesla VP 11
By Rob Einaudi
Editor-in-Chief
I just got back from flogging Tesla VP 11—short for validation prototype number 11—in a roped-off K-Mart parking lot in Bellevue. The nice Tesla folks made sure to emphasize that this is not a production vehicle, and that it has suffered quite a bit of abuse during its short lifetime—all in the name of testing, of course. In fact, one of the engineers drove it up here from the SF Bay Area last night. This is definitely no trailer queen!
The car is fast. That little electric motor delivers pure and instant power. I floored it from a dead stop several times, taking it quickly up to about 60 or 70 mph before nailing the brakes. What a blast. The traction control keeps things from getting unruly. And of course, it’s really quiet. So it all feels very civilized. Handling was quite good (as much as I could test it around the parking lot) though you definitely feel the weight of the car (about 2,700 pounds vs. the Elises’s 1,950 pounds). The low speed steering was pretty heavy without power assist, and this particular car was probably in need of a front-end alignment. Continue reading…
All in all I didn’t find it terribly surprising. It basically drove like I expected it to. Which is to say, awesomely. And that singlespeed gearbox is pretty slick—you definitely feel very connected.
Tesla tells me the prior tranny issues are resolved and that the new and improved tranny (which was in this car) was going into production this week. They are also ramping up production from 4 to 10 cars per week. Tesla has delivered 35 cars so far. They are planning to build 600 cars for the 2008 model year, and 1,800 cars for the 2009 model year. Currently, the rollers are flown to SFO from England (which, obviously, isn’t very green) but they will start using boats to ship the cars over starting with car #100.
Tesla is moving full speed ahead. They are building a new $250 million facility in San Jose so they can start production on an all-electric sedan, which should be priced around $60k. They have 289 employees with openings for 40 more—they’re looking for engineers, sales and marketing folks, and service people. So if you want to work for Tesla, send ‘em your resume!
I talked to a few folks there who has already plunked down very substantial deposits for a Tesla Roadster. They were all thrilled with it and couldn’t wait to get theirs. Given the $109k price tag, I think I’m gonna wait a bit. Maybe I’ll pick one up used on eBay in a few years.
Be sure to check out the video we shot!
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verdegrrl
Oct 18, 2008 at 8:03 pm
“In fact, one of the engineers drove it up here from the SF Bay Area last night.”
Errr, they drove up to Bellevue Washington from San Jose in one night in the Tesla? That’s over 800 miles. Tesla’s max stated range is around 244 miles on a charge, and 3.5 hours to recharge, using the at-home high power connector unit and a 70 amp 220 volt circuit. A standard 3 prong outlet could take as long as 32 hours for a full recharge.
The video states it drove part way, and then was trailered the rest of the way.
Erik
Oct 8, 2008 at 7:57 pm
Suck it, big oil!
Jim Mapes
Oct 6, 2008 at 4:20 pm
It does smoke the tires, the traction control is designed to prevent you from doing that. If I recall on an earlier writing they were talking about turning that off to demonstrate the power and traction difference.
Gotta love the naysayers though, heels dug in falling down the slope to $10/gallon… Fossil driven cars are on the way out, its a supply problem not to mention the inefficiency.
civicshortii
Oct 6, 2008 at 2:54 pm
one word comes to mind. GORGEOUS!
ShantiShunn
Oct 4, 2008 at 5:29 pm
I just want the technology (engine, charging system, etc.) not that interior though, put into my 1965 bug. Re-use comes before recycle, so I would rather buy a Tesla kit to put in my classic ride.
Məxfi
Oct 4, 2008 at 12:42 am
Looks like a shoe. They should have kept original Lotus exterior.
Chargerdemon
Oct 3, 2008 at 9:43 pm
This car is recharged from a powerpoint so for most of us that would mean it’s source of power is coal.
Ian
Oct 2, 2008 at 8:55 pm
I have a Lotus Elise, until you’ve driven one you can’t begin to understand the joy they bring. The handling is incredible. OK so this car is heavier, but where Lotus are involved they’re unlikely to settle for second best. Lotus hand make their cars, I’ve seen these cars being hand made at the UK factory in Hethel. Members of staff build them with a passion, it’s not just a job to them. One day I hope to have a go in a Tesla, it must be a very odd feeling going 0-60 with only road noise to listen to!
Ben
Oct 2, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Interior is very cheap. =\
ronald g
Oct 1, 2008 at 11:51 pm
It’s really a great first effort; Lotus is an excellent platform for electric drive. The range is impressive, but I doubt if the battery pack will hold up without frequent catistrophic failures. I just hope that won’t sink the company.
MAT
Oct 1, 2008 at 11:14 pm
244 miles per charge on average; somewhat less if you’re really aggressive; a bit more if you’re more conservative in your driving.
Jeff
Oct 1, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Great car – even greater concept. Ideal time to bring it to market!
To all the nay-sayers, how is your Model T Ford going? This is progress, AND, being electronic, economies of scale will greatly reduce the price over time (compare with the price of PC’s and other electronic gadgetry).
Hopefully the lack of ongoing service requirements and the dent in oil consumption wont “tempt” legislators to find a way to outlaw it.
Stephen
Oct 1, 2008 at 10:44 pm
Any idea on the range of one of these things?
rob
Oct 1, 2008 at 10:15 pm
with the cost of fuel on the rise and the cost of battery technology falling fast
your forecast of fuel for 5 years vs the batteries in 5 could be very very far from acurate how ever in 5 year you could spend that same about on the batteries and likely double your distance, half your charge time, and reduce your weight
look at the recenet battery technology and how much it has changed in the last 5 years
Michael
Oct 1, 2008 at 9:32 pm
I have personally always thought that Lotus made ugly cars. This is a prime example of just that.
I have no clue why big car companies haven’t tackled the hydrogen relm… I see no problem with filling my car up with water. My friend installs these kits already. He claims the engine gains an additional 40 hp and it gets somewhere between 40-50 mpg. I would have it installed already but he says that Turbo charged cars have not been tested with a hydrogen kit yet. I am thinkin about being a brave soul to test it out.
Anyways, I’m sorry to say but I think Honda and Toyota have the Luxury car companies beat when it comes to fuel efficiency and ECO friendly. Obviously electric would be ideal but if you have to change the batteries every 100,000 miles and it costs that much… I fail to see the point.
Brian
Oct 1, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Looks like a Lotus
Jim Eberhart
Oct 1, 2008 at 7:29 pm
You should be aware that (according to Tesla) the batteries will need to be replaced in 5 years or about 100,000 miles (whichever comes first) at the current price of about $25,000. For a car that gets 20 miles per gallon, and gas that costs $3.75 per gallon, it would cost $18,750 to drive 100,000 miles. Food for thought…..
Jim
nathan
Oct 1, 2008 at 5:22 pm
i think it looks like a porsche carrera and a mitsubishi eclipse rolled into one.
i agree about the price.. if i had that much money, a corvette would definitely be sitting in my driveway
Tesla owner on the waiting list
Oct 1, 2008 at 9:15 am
A couple of responses to the thoughtful and enthusiastic comments here. I don’t speak for the company but am awaiting my own Tesla Roadster.
1. The price- It’s hefty, but far less (80% less) than I paid for my Italian sports car. Plus, those cars need tune ups every 5k miles/year of driving, at which point the timing belt is replaced, etc, etc to the tune of at least $5k per year. Electric cars are very low maintenance, but even if the Tesla turns out to be buggy, that will all be warranty issues. Plus, that “italian car” costs $100 per fillup and undoubtably costs much more to insure. (Still a heck of a lot of fun though!)
2. How many $100k cars go 0-60 under 4 seconds? None? How many can drive in the carpool lane with a single driver? None. How many qualify for potential tax credits and Utility agency rebates? None! Also, keep in mind these are essentially handmade cars at this point.
This article is very informative and I had no idea these are being flown over! That alone must cost several thousand dollars. Apart from that, initial owners while greedily buying a performance car, could also feel better about it because we were showing that an electric car could be more than just efficient and quiet, but downright cool! That is worth paying more than a corvette for! And, let’s face it, if these things don’t have thermal events, etc, they will have net positive resale value, unlike corvettes, etc which go down in price drastically.
3. The body was based on an Elise, but you cannot replace the driving experience by getting an Elise, as nice as they are. Tesla’s car is wider and longer and MUCH more comfortable to sit in, while retaining the high performance flavor. And, yes it is nice to drive in such a quiet car with the top off, going fast on a sunny california day!
4. Re: Emissions- I have solar panels at my house, and I bet many other owners either do or will. It won’t take any power from coal. Also, most of the Teslas are going to California owners and California gets less than 20% of its electricity from coal. It is mostly from natural gas and nuclear, with some hydro and thousands of megawatts more of solar and wind energy coming down the pike. On a related note, Tesla’s biggest investor/founder Elon Mush also has started a significant solar installer called Solar City and I’m sure they’ll work out a deal with owners to install solar carports. IOW, these guys have thought about everything!
Don
Sep 30, 2008 at 5:31 am
Boy thats slick as hell! Heavy or not, what a dream car for the future….
However……….
Is it my imagination, or are those body panel gaps ‘Grand Canyon’ big???
steve
Sep 30, 2008 at 12:02 am
it needs to be lighter!!! that thing is heavy. I still want it though.
Turbo_d225cimike
Sep 29, 2008 at 11:36 pm
- All i really want to know is how do I get a green car to go 0-60 in 3.0. See what im sayin’ criticism from everyone cause youre different. It aint easy bein green:)
SpeedCanHurt
Sep 29, 2008 at 2:36 am
I’d love to roll up to a gas station, say ‘fill ‘er up’ and watch them try to figure it out. Or hand it over to valet and see them try and figure out the gears. Man, I want one.
website designs
Sep 29, 2008 at 12:12 am
Tesla VP 11 Zero Emission Sport Coupe
EuroCar
Sep 28, 2008 at 11:21 pm
Very nice! I love the carbon fiber… http://www.eurocarblog.net
Matt
Sep 28, 2008 at 4:58 pm
if she’d smoke the tires ill give it a high five!
Bill
Sep 28, 2008 at 3:40 pm
I would buy one if the price is right and thats pretty awesome that an electric car can go 0-60 in 3.9 seconds!!!!!
floyd
Sep 28, 2008 at 2:53 pm
That thing is awsome!!!
Məxfi
Sep 28, 2008 at 8:56 am
yea make the car affordable!!!!!
Bobby
Sep 28, 2008 at 4:48 am
no, it would look amazing in my garage!
haha i want one!!!!
Anish
Sep 28, 2008 at 3:43 am
That car would look amazing with a flat black paint job
vince
Sep 28, 2008 at 2:14 am
its becuse of cars like that 1 that i want 2 be a mechanical engineer
Steve Y
Sep 27, 2008 at 8:35 pm
There is an autocross in Bremerton tomorrow 9/28.
Convince them to bring it out.
Michiel
Sep 27, 2008 at 8:15 pm
rev-counter that red-lines at 14000…. that’s F1 material right there…
awesome…
Chaz
Sep 27, 2008 at 7:42 pm
Daniel,
The car was designed with a lot of help from Lotus, so the similarities are there for a reason. They didn’t just “steal” the design.
Smiz
Sep 27, 2008 at 6:33 pm
For that price i could buy a brand new Exige or Elise. Get better handling, and pretty decent gas mileage… People who are able to purchase this car probably dont have fuel costs on their mind, or budget. Hell, for that price i could get a ZR-1 Corvette. Sorry, but this car needs more of an edge, not the novelty of being “emissions free” (which isn’t true because more than likely the powerplant it’s getting the electricity from is run off coal) Drop the price to 30K-40K and we’ll talk.
nismoke
Sep 27, 2008 at 5:55 pm
i loved it since day 1
00SS
Sep 27, 2008 at 5:47 pm
why cant they make something like this with an affordable price tag..
elcamino-dude
Sep 27, 2008 at 5:02 pm
these cars are so sweet i want to actually see one in person, and i’ve heard theyre really impressive accleration too, there such sweet cars
Daniel
Sep 27, 2008 at 3:59 pm
The designers of this car seem to make no effort at all to cover up its Lotus Elise bones. But then again, should you?
Məxfi
Sep 27, 2008 at 3:41 pm
very nice.
Gstylez
Sep 27, 2008 at 3:39 pm
its really that small
Derrick
Sep 27, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Is it really that small or is he that big?
Nord
Sep 27, 2008 at 9:27 am
Long Life for the Tesla Roadster!
Keep this spirit alive.
Ron Oliver
Sep 27, 2008 at 7:16 am
That Thing Is Sexy