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November 30, 2008

Say It Ain’t So: GM May Cut Pontiac

By Rob Einaudi

Editor-in-Chief

It’s hard to imagine, but this is what it has come to: GM may cut Saab, Saturn, Hummer and even Pontiac. The fate of these brands hangs in the balance as GM gets ready to submit a plan to Congress. Via Freep

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Comments

dusk_69gto
Dec 3, 2008 at 11:48 pm

all gm should be now is chevy and pontiac, thats what sells. I see plenty of those 2 on the road but not so much of the others. they should keep what sells. And we dont need to lose our great pontiac,its an american legend why get rid of it. pontiac=gms performance side
do that not see that they gave the world firebird, trans-am, and the great one

Anonymous
Dec 3, 2008 at 6:20 pm

DROP ALL EXCEPT CHEVY AND SATURN

oldscoob
Dec 2, 2008 at 5:27 pm

guages or not guages..floor shift or not,pontiac or not pontiac, its all in a chevy. It is a bout time to see common sense stuff emerging.For every corporate ,marketing thief is a transverse FWD…

jeremy
Dec 2, 2008 at 12:26 pm

drop all that garbage, who gives a shit

Anonymous
Dec 2, 2008 at 4:00 am

atleast crappy saturns will be gone

Anonymous
Dec 2, 2008 at 3:49 am

if you think about it, there sales would have been better if they made the “new” GTO look well like a GTO

dusk_69gto
Dec 2, 2008 at 3:42 am

this is not good. 1 they dont need to cut b/c they have plenty of money and pontiac are selling. 2 we need American cars. 3 why not cut hummer. all they need is chevy and pontiac. also we need the jobs. the big wigs now are the economys problem. sending jobs away, or getting rid of something to save them money but hurts the working people. we need pontiac. one of Americas historical sports cars cant go

Jonny Bravo
Dec 2, 2008 at 2:25 am

I agree with Maffew, Why wouldn’t they cut Buick instead of Pontiac, cuz Buick doesn’t make anything good right now anyway. Now, I can see how they could see cutting Pontiac as a good move because Pontiacs aren’t exactly the most fuel efficient vehicles, but then again, are Buicks?

GTwildfire
Dec 1, 2008 at 3:03 pm

I agree with godfrey to some extent. GM is in this much trouble because their leadership screwed up. Yes the situation has been made much worse because of the mortgage mess rippling through the credit markets making financing of new car sales much more difficult… but GM could have been a healthier company if they made the right choices all along and could have been in better shape to ride out the storm.

Dgodfrey
Dec 1, 2008 at 2:44 pm

GM has no business asking for a bail out. This is how capitalism works. If you can’t stay with peoples wants and needs then your business will fail. If you can’t control your employees comtracts your business will fail. I hope with all my heart that congress doesn’t give them a dime. If the top executives are that desperate let them put their own fortunes into the mix. Let them put it all on the line like any other business. Business is a risk, its not up to us to bail you out when you fail.

Maffew
Dec 1, 2008 at 1:32 pm

Replace pontiac with buick, and the list is an awesome idea. I dont see who in their right mind would cut pontiac instead of buick…

Anonymous
Dec 1, 2008 at 7:45 am

the problem with selling them is what do they sell? almost all the makes about to get cut are pretty much overlapping other cars. Like Pontiac for instance is pretty much badge engineered products. All of their brands are assembled along side chevys, saturns, and other gm products. so you cant sell the factories either.

Anonymous
Dec 1, 2008 at 7:08 am

I don’t understand. They could sell brands to raise cash ponatic buick saturn saab and hummer. They should listen to jerry york the consultant years ago.

Anonymous
Dec 1, 2008 at 6:56 am

Caddy is not going anywhere. the two brands that are most likly going to survive the cut will be Chevy and Cadillac

GTwildfire
Dec 1, 2008 at 4:50 am

I see plenty of Pontiacs on the roads every day. It’s been a popular brand for those who think Chevy’s styling is a bit too… milquetoast.
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Remove Pontiac and GM may lose brand loyalty. This will happen at a greater scale with Cadillac.
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They’re such jackasses at GM if they’re seriously thinking of doing this. They finally got the CTS to where it competes head-to-head with Europe’s snooty upscale sedans, even impressing Jeremy Clarkson and *Poof* suddenly Cadillac becomes history?
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No… If Chevy becomes Chevy and nothing else, they can go to hell. I’ll become a goddam FORD man or if by some miracle Chrysler manages to survive I might go that way. This shit is too much for me to stand.

Anonymous
Dec 1, 2008 at 3:10 am

the g8 is doomed either way. GM announced there will be no updates for the g8 so it was pretty much a lame duck the moment it hit showroom floors

cknarf
Dec 1, 2008 at 2:28 am

No Pontiac = no G8! why god, why!?

fortyfordsedan
Nov 30, 2008 at 10:59 pm

I guess I can see that. I think I have seen 1 or 2 G6 on the road ever and while I see Solstice running around I don’t imagine that alone can justify keeping whole brand going. I can see keeping GMC, just because aside from badging, I don’t really see any difference between a GMC and Chevy truck so it gives the GM dealers that don’t sell Chevy a truck to sell. Really GM has been needing to shed some weight a while, but it will be a shame to see the company that brought us the GTO and Trans am go the way that Plymouth did.

Tech
Nov 30, 2008 at 10:20 pm

Ya, and they got rid of oldsmobile several years ago to save Saturn !
http://www.greatautohelp.com

Charles A.
Nov 30, 2008 at 10:01 pm

the reason buick isn’t on that list is because it still sells some cars here in the US and it sells tons of cars in china. Buick is the premium car in china that a middle class family aspires to attain. but i also think gmc should be added to the list. Chevy, Cadillac, and Buick are global so they are all safe regardless of brand cuts.

Anonymous
Nov 30, 2008 at 10:00 pm

The end is near!

Dhillaz
Nov 30, 2008 at 10:00 pm

Saab is pretty useless these days: they are just dressed up Vauxhalls (Saturns).

kori
Nov 30, 2008 at 9:34 pm

WOW WHY SAAB?! thats awful….

7urtle
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:04 pm

they should keep pontiac,chev, and cadi.thats it t

Alex Henderson
Nov 30, 2008 at 7:49 pm

i don’t get why buick isn’t on that list it seems to me that pontiac, hummer, buick, GMC is a better list. without buick cadillac has a better market share, GMC is pointless, no one is going to buy hummers anymore in the numbers that they need, and all pontiac does is take market share away from chevy.

Guyon
Nov 30, 2008 at 6:20 pm

Nooooooo!

Not Saab!

James
Nov 30, 2008 at 6:12 pm

all I care about of those brands is Saab. And frankly, GM has fucked them up so badly while in their care that I hope they sell them off to someone who knows what the hell they’re doing.

GTwildfire
Nov 30, 2008 at 4:56 pm

Stupid Stupid Stupid!!!
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Sell off SAAB & Hummer.
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Focus cash needs on maintaining liquidity for the short term and design/re-tooling to build more efficient models in the long term.
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They worked on all kinds of concepts in the past that are very do-able today, and some made a hell of a lot of sense. Pull those ideas out of mothballs and just freaking go for it!
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Seems GM’s MGMT is very short on common sense and very long on pursuing ideas destined for failure.
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The whole Chevy/Pontiac/ETC thing shares platforms. Most parts are the same except for body and some other parts. They made the Camaro then changed maybe 5% of the parts to make the Firebird, how expensive can that be?
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I’m holding my breath waiting for some GOOD ideas to come from GM. I’ll probably pass out & die waiting.

Chris
Nov 30, 2008 at 4:31 pm

Good, add Buick to that list, and I’ll be happy.

While it’s sad that the history would be dying, all GM needs is Chevy and Cadillac to survive and flourish. Cutting the fat is a great idea.

cknarf
Nov 30, 2008 at 4:23 pm

NOOOOO!!!!

F*** Saab, Saturn, and Hummer! they’re all shit anyways!

Anonymous
Nov 30, 2008 at 11:53 am

good riddance

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