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March 18, 2009
CarDomain Obscure Muscle Car Parking Lot: The 1968-70 Oldsmobile Toronado W-34
By Jim Brennan
UDMan
Welcome to the CarDomain Obscure Muscle Car Parking Lot, a regular feature which aims to expand the notion of what a muscle car is, and to expand conventional thinking while we’re at it. A few weeks ago, I ran a feature on the Pontiac Grand Prix GXP, and asked whether or not a FWD, V8-powered car could ever be considered a muscle car. The overwhelming majority of you said NO, so this time, I thought I’d reach back to the 1968-through-1970 time period. This was the true peak of the classic muscle car era, rife with fire-breathing HEMIs, Ford Cobra Jets, and at least four different GM big blocks. Let me introduce you to a true full-size coupe–but one with over 400 hp driving the front wheels. I give you the Oldsmobile Toronado W-34.

The Oldsmobile Toronado was what you would call a breakthrough car when it debuted in the fall of 1965. General Motors was at the top of its game back then, with the recent introduction in 1965 of their entire stable of all-new full size-cars (from Chevrolet right up through Cadillac), a redesigned Corvair, their now 2-year-old mid-sized cars (Chevelle, Special, F-85, and Tempest), along with freshened versions of the Corvette and Chevy II. It was now time to come out with something that was sports-car inspired, but large enough to be a luxury car (remember, we’re talking about the mid 60′s!). After 8 years of research and tests, Oldsmobile was confident enough in the engineering of the components that would be used in their first FWD muscle car, and so the Toronado was put into production.

The Toronado was GM’s first subframe automobile, which means it was a partial unibody with a subrame that ended at the forward end of the rear suspension, serving as a mounting point for the leaf springs. It carried the powertrain, front suspension and floorpan, allowing greater isolation of road and engine harshness. The radical new ride was a styling success, but not much of a sales success.

The Toronado went on for the 1966 and 67 seasons with few changes, however, there were changes coming. A special option code called W-34 was available on the 1968–70 Toronado. This option included a cold-air induction system for the air cleaner, a special performance camshaft and a “GT” transmission calibrated for quick and firm up-shifts and better torque multiplication at 5 mph (8 km/h). Dual exhaust outlets, similar to the 1966–67 model years with cutouts in the bumper, were also included with W-34. The W-34 option provided an additional 25 horsepower from the 455 by using larger intake valves, and was similar to a W-30 442 option in a rear-drive Olds. The compression ratio was 10.25:1, and the final drive ratio, 3.07:1.

For 1970 only, the W-34 option also included special “GT” badges on the exterior of the car. The W-34 Toronado was capable of 0–60 mph in 7.5 seconds and the standing 1/4 mile in 15.7 seconds @ 89.8 mph. With its low stance and 400 front-drive horsepower, there was nothing else like it in 1970–it was a unique luxury-muscle coupe with more hp per pound than any production FWD car until the Cadillac Allante.


Of the 25,433 Toronados built in 1970, only 5,341 were Toronado GT models, making the GT the rarest of Doctor Olds’ “W” Machines (W-34). Advertising copy of the day described it as ” A One-of-a-Kind Car, in a Carbon Copy World.”

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Here’s Jerry’s 1968 Olds Toronado W34, from Sebago, Maine. Jerry states that this car will never be up for sale. And look, he has another 68 Toronado W34, in red. Not sure if I like the painted bumper, but looks good nonetheless.
And here’s Mac’s 1970 Olds Toronado GT, from Spokane WA. Only 2 pictures here, but still looks great. Post these guys a comment if you have time.
There you have it: a large, comfortable, 2-door coupe, its expansive hood hiding a 400 hp V8 mated to a beefed-up transmission. I ask, is this not the definition of an Obscure Muscle Car? Or should it be disqualified by its fwd, like the last front-drive car in the series? State your case and be ready to defend it.

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olds68
Sep 25, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Just my two cents, but the REAL gross horsepower is 425-430.
Transmission code is OM for 1968-70 W-34s, most 1966-1978 Toronados says OJ.
1968 was the only year the W-34 option had the “Forced Air-Induction), left side radtior switch, notched rear bumper. 1969 W-34 no notched bumper, and it return for 1970 Toronado GT.
1968 is the rarest for the W-34 option, at 111 (yes only 111 out of a total production of 26,454 units), 1969 – ? (Oldsmobile never kept record on the W-34 that year, but the former TOA president thinks it might be 2,000(+/-)), and for 1970, prodution was 5,341 (roughly one 1 out of every 5 1970 Toronados were GTs).
Link my profiles say, the gold and red Toronado are not for sale.
But I know of three 1968 W-34s for sale.
If I sell my totaled blue 1968 W-34, I sell, if I dont, I don’t
I’ve had it since Wednesday, August 24, 1994. This car was built of May 4, 1968.
Jerry
Advisor for 1968 W-34 Toronados for
Oldsmobile Club of America and Toronado Owners Assication
squirtacious
Apr 9, 2009 at 11:59 am
P.S. to respond to Oafmans post. Torque steer is not bad at all. It’s nothing like a Honda.
squirtacious
Apr 9, 2009 at 11:55 am
I have owned ten Toronados over the years. I’ve had 2 ’66 2’69 1’70 4 ’70 GT’s and 1 ’71 I now have thinned my herd down to a near perfect ’70 deluxe non GT with only 50k miles on it. A ’70 GT that needs attention and a ’70 GT parts car. My dad had a GT brand new so I know these things pretty well. In my (completely unbiased opinion ha ha) The ’70 GT is the best american car ever made. Many people dont know that all ’70′s had quick ratio steering, two turns lock to lock. Which makes the car think it’s a thousand pounds lighter. The steering is so precise that an average steering correction is no more than a 1/4 inch of movement of the wheel and if the road is straight you can set it up and let it go. It will stay in it’s lane for miles without correction. When I take someone for a ride they are amazed and we all start to giggle after the first mile. It’s crazy.
wsbob
Mar 18, 2009 at 6:07 pm
I raised hell about why the Pontiac Grand Prix GXP isn’t a muscle car, but this car is from the era, and has a big block engine and muscle car power, so yeah it is
retroman
Mar 18, 2009 at 5:28 pm
I’ve always been curious about the FWD cars of the 60s. It was a RWD world back then, in contrast it’s almost the opposite today. In my book, it fits 3/4 requirements for a muscle car, so it’s in.
IH-international
Mar 18, 2009 at 3:11 pm
i am getting a 455 engine from a 1970 toronado this fall when i go back home!!! its the 375hp version!!! i already bought a offenhauser high-rise dual-plane 360 intake for it!!!
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DJs-zj360
Mar 18, 2009 at 6:41 am
Hey, don’t forget about Jay Leno’s RWD converted 1000hp Toronado! Now that is beastly!
Oafman
Mar 18, 2009 at 5:37 am
I would count this as a muscle car. I knew a guy who had one of those and it was a beast. Sure it probably has torque steer, sure it has FWD but for power and size this has muscle.
Sharpie1
Mar 18, 2009 at 4:55 am
I always loved the look of it, and it was a longitudinal mounted V8 with a transmission bellow it wiht almost equal length axes so this would have kept all the power very balanced.
The tornado might not have sold well, but there we’re many FWD V8 Cadillac’s and other GM that sold really well not long after this.