Cash for Clunkers Not Just Blog Fodder: It's Really Happening

Four-Links – rotting J-tin, Hertz AMX, Bloody Mary, crushing a Jaguar « Memphis Auto
Jul 25, 2009 at 5:05 am

[...] dealers have been accepting so-called clunkers all month. David Clarke, over at the CarDomain blog, decided to see what people have been trading in as part of the program so far at a dealer close to him, and found the above Jaguar sedan, along with a Land Rover and a [...]

buickpimpin101
Jul 22, 2009 at 9:24 am

Ohh my. so sad so sad so sad, i dont even know what to do, i just hope it doesnt happen in BC, so sad!

pb1drgn
Jul 21, 2009 at 8:55 pm

You can look at all the cars in this website cars is like art you might not love it but the next man might even kill for it… its a shame. why not kill car history all together

pb1drgn
Jul 21, 2009 at 8:53 pm

The Jag made the list of worlds sexiest cars……

CH3VYBOI
Jul 21, 2009 at 4:15 pm

i agree on the jaguar bit. they do look nice but they are a bitch to keep up with on repairs. my boss has one and he has in in the shop monthly even when he doesnt drive it daily. the jag should go lol. as for the other vehicles they should be saved. except the VW. unless some volkswagen fan buys it. the trucks looked decent except for the one ton and even that would be of use in a small town like mine. the land rover looks great i cant believe its on the go.

chaztheoccultist
Jul 21, 2009 at 3:39 pm

the jaguar should not be destroyed. the whole thing is bull. shyt.

Monk73
Jul 21, 2009 at 2:58 pm

1984 or newer and average (EPA estimate, not actual numbers) of 18mpg or less.

But you must trade it in for a new car that gets 22mpg or better for $3500 and 24mpg or higher for $4500.

Dmoore420
Jul 21, 2009 at 1:10 pm

Wow look what the northern weather does to cars! RUST

OddballStang
Jul 21, 2009 at 12:45 pm

Alright, I agree, its a shame that the Jag was given over to this scam, but as someone mentioned earlier. Most of the cars that are worth saving are in the hands of enthusiast already. I also haven’t seen anyone actually talking about the plan. I read today in the paper, that the vehicle has to be from 1984, or before, it also much average less than 18mpg, as for your Caravan bulldog_1995, if the deal is as I read it, they wouldn’t give you squat for the van because it does to well on gas. The article also said that only 2500 vouchers will be given out, which they expect to run out of by September. I agree the plan isn’t my favorite, but hopefully the damage to real collector cars will be minimal, last time I checkd there weren’t to many clueless old ladies still toolin’ around in Hemi GTXs, or Shelby Mustangs.

1746639
Jul 21, 2009 at 12:42 pm

Old Jaguars often clean up nice but cost a fortune if used regularly. Might even cost a fortune if not used regularly. There comes a point where the balance of upkeep exceeds the asthetic value.
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Jags never had a problem looking good. Too bad their other problems weren’t resolved.

RavenAegis45
Jul 21, 2009 at 12:02 pm

wow thats pretty sad really, but oh well times are changing

01Cavifreak
Jul 21, 2009 at 9:41 am

That jaguar is in better condition than my jaguar and mine is the same model, but in red

I_Luv_Dusty
Jul 21, 2009 at 9:37 am

No, not that beautiful Jaguar! That was from back in the days when Jags had style and class.

RudeBwoyJag
Jul 21, 2009 at 8:47 am

The Jag Looks So Clean I’m Confused :S

tmac407
Jul 21, 2009 at 7:42 am

that jag must have some real promblems what the hell they thinking crushing that

troutster52
Jul 21, 2009 at 7:26 am

I am with you, StickShiftRick. Nobody is forcing the junk out of people’s hands, its just an option for someone that would rather spend 400 a month on a car payment instead of gas and repairs. Also, I doubt the response to this will be so big that it will rob the salvage parts market clean. I love cars and especially old cars and I am not afraid of this bill. In fact, I have a few friends that could really profit from a 3500 trade in on something a dealer might give them 100 for otherwise. Everyone just needs to calm down.

Reekesh
Jul 21, 2009 at 7:07 am

Not the Jag, it is a classic nah!!!!!!!!

Shame………….

4Wheelin_Forever
Jul 21, 2009 at 6:44 am

NNNOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! NOT THE VW VAN!!!!

2090386
Jul 21, 2009 at 5:45 am

That jag looks clean with a good body on it. Im surprised someone would just let it get crushed. Oh well, the world as we know it is coming to an end and we wont need cars for the end that is near.

2200822
Jul 21, 2009 at 4:39 am

Perhaps this policy change could employ a filter’(a guy in a office),to help save the best one of these “finest” cars!

nukie010
Jul 21, 2009 at 3:31 am

i would take any of those cars anyday…they should try and resell them and make more money from them instead of crushing them…if they dont sell then crush them and recycle the metal and plastic instead of letting them sit after they’re crushed

dragorphan
Jul 21, 2009 at 3:23 am

Notice!!! Not one camaro mustang no 21 window bus no xke just junk. A coworker of mine has a similar jag and the piece of crap is costing him a fortune to keep running. his may be off to the crusher soon. the chevy truck is a rust bucket if it was in better shape it could easly sell for more. the rover? British. Translation leave your left nut when you order the part and they will take the other on pickup. Go to your local salvage yard and you can find nicer cars. If we dont get rid of something a lot more people will be losing their jobs.

1842118
Jul 21, 2009 at 12:12 am

and all the recepts i have from the original/previous owner are from a Dodge dealerships

1842118
Jul 21, 2009 at 12:10 am

monk73 your are right i avg 22.3 mpg its still more then the ranger though and if properly maintained the 3.3 is soposed to be good for between 300 and 400,00 mi it’ll be a year before i hit that range so i’m planning on kepping her for a while when the motor goes ill probaly go to the wrecking yard and pull a low mi set from anouther van as this body is in almost new condition

80sMuscleMan
Jul 20, 2009 at 11:24 pm

Ill make a deal with the owner of that Jag all give them whatever “cash for clunkers” is going to give them plus 200 dollars!!! come on! Thats a Deal

Monk73
Jul 20, 2009 at 11:21 pm

Unless your caravan goes from 0 to 65 instantly it is still not going to average above 22mpg around town. Plus, if you get good enough gas mileage then there is no need to get a new car anyway right? Of course at 200k+ miles you are bound to need a major part soon(knock on wood). To be honest I am not a fan of free(tax)money, but in this case you will have to spend 6+ times more money to get that stimulus.

1842118
Jul 20, 2009 at 11:11 pm

gtwildfire- i am second owner on the caraven when i bought it last aug it came with all the repair recipts and all i’ve had to do to it was replace the brake pads and put a used trany in after about 6 mths (big surprize lol) but you missed my point they wanted to give me a rig that gets WORSE mpg how does that help the inviro?

GTwildfire
Jul 20, 2009 at 10:59 pm

Sorry but I keep having afterthoughts… I’m not impressed with what’s in the pictures, none of it, and for those of you who do value them (that’s ok, why there’s vanilla & chocolate) I got a secret for you…
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You’ll still be able to find them… shhh.

GTwildfire
Jul 20, 2009 at 10:54 pm

LOL, why do I have the feeling I’ll never get CD swag ever again?
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The irony is that I love this site, no matter what.

GTwildfire
Jul 20, 2009 at 10:52 pm

Oh but wait, bulldog_1995. Giving that Caravan with 275,000 milees on the odometer and getting 2500 bucks is just PURE EVIL. You must RESIST the TEMPTATION and continue to dump your income into that van that has served you so well, for so long.
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It’s unfathomable that you would take the easy route, disregard such an old friend and help boost new car sales. You must reconsider this ridiculous path and help preserve what few used Caravans are left on this Earth.

1842118
Jul 20, 2009 at 10:41 pm

the round trip was just shy of 3800 ni

1842118
Jul 20, 2009 at 10:39 pm

my id is bulldog_1995 dont know why it shows up like this but anyway i went to the ford website and put my current ride on (a 92 grand caravan witch gets me 28mpg @65mph on the freeway according to the trip comp i just drove it from seattle to ne ia) and they wanted to give me 2500 on a new ranger that is rated for 22 freeway o and my van has 275000miles on it! and my 66 econo gets on avg 26 mpg lets see a new fullsize van do that lol

Corollaczy
Jul 20, 2009 at 10:18 pm

i am 2018167 and i dont know why it showed up like that. But anyway maybe I do make some invalid, angry remarks. But at the moment i’m generally pissed off at the government and my dad losing his job didn’t help. And no, not everyone has to go with trading in their clunker. I know my grandparents didn’t when they bought their f150. They didn’t want to see their beautiful Dodge Ram crushed. They love it. Multi-Millionaires by the way so no they didnt need the discount. My whole family is strongly opposed to the Obama Administration and i am opposed as well. And of course it will stimulate the new car market and help in some other occasions as well. And it is in place and I may not like it but all I can do is watch it unfold and I certainty hope it succeeds in achieving something good, just because i dont like something doesn’t mean i want it to fail, which is the same way that I feel about the Obama administration.

Monk73
Jul 20, 2009 at 9:43 pm

2018167:
Not everyone with a car that qualifies for the bill will actually use it because you HAVE to purchase a new car to get the money. So there will be plenty of cheapies for us all.

OldRidinLow:
This is a good point, but only if you are lucky enough to actually live next to a pick and pull. All my local scrapyards charge an arm and a leg for OEM stuff off a car. Then you might as well buy a NOS part from a catalog.

If I worked at a dealership I would be super crazy about this bill because it is a definite sale everytime someone comes in with a clunker.

2108468
Jul 20, 2009 at 9:21 pm

The person Who came up with this idea should go “SHOOT THEMSELVES”!!!!

StickShiftRick
Jul 20, 2009 at 9:09 pm

2018167, if that IS your real name, you make me lulz. First off, I like to reiterate that no one is forcing these people to take this offer — it’s completely up to the consumer. Secondly, as far as where the money is coming from, let’s go wit tax (although it’s probably just as likely coming from foreign investors which by the way hold 50% of our debt but I’ll save that for a more apt forum). The tax code in the US is bracketed, meaning the more you make, the more percentage they take from you; so there’s like an exponential gain for the gov’t the richer someone is. So seeing that most of the money is coming from them AND that it’s safe to assume that they aren’t the one trading in clunkers, do you really believe that this bill wouldn’t in some way actually help the “lower class” as you put it? I have a few buddies with a garage, err, I should say yard, full of nasty skank-o-mobiles that I wouldn’t take if you paid me and NOW they can have +$3500 for these things! With regards to your recession talk, that’s another reason why this bill is in place. It’s here to stimulate the car market as the USED car market doesn’t really mean crap for industry when juxtaposed to the new car market. Now I’m not trying to make a “pro” claim for the bill per se, I am however trying to stimulate intellectual debate and veer away from ignorant, asinine banter. My personal view is to spend LESS and just ride out the storm, even if it is harsher because China and other nations won’t feed Uncle Sam’s appetite to live above it’s means forever, especially as the USD starts to wain with the rise of the Euro and additional currencies used for the international reserve.

2018167
Jul 20, 2009 at 8:52 pm

This is the stupidest idea ever. Wat in the hell are the lower class going to do for cars?? Thats my question. Some people can not afford newer cars with better gas millage. Some people need cars and the only ones they can afford are the old clunkers with bad gas millage. And what happens if you need some replacement parts. Where the hell are you gonna find those? Not to mention this plan saves nothing, absolutely nothing. I have talked with car dealers and they will just sit there and grin when you ask if they will still let people bargain as much as they used to be able to.Because they know that they wont let you go as low. I don’t see how crushing good cars is supposed to help us. Its just plain wasteful, just because something isn’t the best doesn’t mean you should destroy it. Who cares if it helps the environment, im more worried about the economy. Where is the money coming from??? TAXPAYERS PERHAPS, mo matter where it comes from the government shouldn’t be pissing away their money on this shit. We are in a recession and i feel that maybe we should focus on that problem first. At the moment i say f*** the planet.

StickShiftRick
Jul 20, 2009 at 8:46 pm

FordRulesAll, that’s one reason why they do want us to scrap these things; they aren’t exactly eco-friendly. Plus, the idea is anyway (I’m not saying it works), that you have to buy a more eco-friendly car in order to qualify for this deal. In South Jersey, we have our fair share of clunkers moppin’ around. Whatever decreases the chances of me being stuck behind some stinky, slow iron sled or a pickup that’s shooting out enough unburned fuel for my car to run off of, the better. Most–not all–of the cars being scrapped is better served as raw material than the crap car they are anyhow.

FordRulesAll
Jul 20, 2009 at 8:19 pm

It is very funny how our Gov’t is urging us to recycle and reuse, not make garbage, help save the environment and all. But yet they want people to just throw away good vehicles. Makes no sense.

chevyman327nova
Jul 20, 2009 at 8:07 pm

the rest looked pretty much like shit cars anyhow maybe except the mint jag but somebody could use that white chevy truck its savable or atleast for parts FUCK THIS BILL!

OldsRidinLow01
Jul 20, 2009 at 7:07 pm

This is a PERFECT way to totally screw people out of perfectly good replacement parts. That Jaguar looks immaculate.. There’s a wealth of parts to be had there. Somewhere, some poor guy is looking for a door handle or a trim piece, and that car is just gonna get crushed.
Even if the cars are in overall poor shape, it’s doing the community a disservice by destroying them in whole.

I say.. pull the engines and dispose of them, keep the car for parts.. at least if it’s a worthwhile car (those 2 trucks in the photos would hardly be worth it).

CaliChevylover
Jul 20, 2009 at 6:46 pm

nobody is gonna miss a land rover discovery. that was a clunker off the showroom floor

troutster52
Jul 20, 2009 at 6:39 pm

I agree. The cars worth having will stay around. The ones we’ll lose are the junk 80s land yacht cars, fullsize vans and tired old rusted out SUVs. There won’t be any 57 Chevys, 32 Fords or 69 Chargers. All the loved classics will still be around. Will we lose some El Caminos off the road? Probably. I won’t shed a tear for those. I promise.

Bigfoot1313
Jul 20, 2009 at 6:18 pm

even though i dont like jaguars, its a shame that this one had to be put in that parking lot. even if it had a blown engine or electrical problems, why not give it to someone that can actually do something with it. probably some rich kid who needed some extra money so he can bribe his parents into buying a new porsche or somthing.

StickShiftRick
Jul 20, 2009 at 6:11 pm

There are some that are a shame, but most worthwhile cars I feel are in the clutches of enthusiasts. Most of the stuff that I’ve been seeing has really been clunkers.

JoeCool97Formula
Jul 20, 2009 at 6:10 pm

I am different.I love the idea! Get those oil leaking, smoking POS’s off the road… NOW!!!

1027124
Jul 20, 2009 at 5:54 pm

sad, but oh well

2022542
Jul 20, 2009 at 5:47 pm

no car deserves the crusher

1398252
Jul 20, 2009 at 5:34 pm

There ws a very interesting article in my new paper about that.

SecondGearTV
Jul 20, 2009 at 4:48 pm

19403363
Jul 20, 2009 at 12:08 pm

Buyer beware: There are numerous scams going on with this program.

1) Don’t give your personal information online.
2) Make sure your clunker is worth less than the credit.
3) Read this checklist on other scamps,

http://tinyurl.com/BuyerC4C

- J.
~~~~~~~~~~~~uh…..*Scams* or *Scamps*?

FordRulesAll
Jul 20, 2009 at 2:44 pm

What defines a clunker?

Monk73
Jul 20, 2009 at 1:48 pm

Heh, my bad. I thought the front looked odd when I was typing. But I was in a hurry… no excuse though. I have brought shame upon myself.

1842118
Jul 20, 2009 at 1:11 pm

hay monk73 if by toyota truck you mean nissan truck your right but that is pretty well hammered but that GM 1-ton behind it looks reworkable (note tow strap under bumper)

1992095
Jul 20, 2009 at 1:09 pm

I have to say I am very disappointed. This is supposed to be a car lover’s website, yet no one realized that isn’t a Toyota truck. It’s a Nissan.

sarahsmile90
Jul 20, 2009 at 12:30 pm

Definitely going to be some casualties with this bill….

Monk73
Jul 20, 2009 at 12:10 pm

To be honest, I was shocked when I saw the kbb on it. I was assuming around $1500.

19403363
Jul 20, 2009 at 12:08 pm

Buyer beware: There are numerous scams going on with this program.

1) Don’t give your personal information online.
2) Make sure your clunker is worth less than the credit.
3) Read this checklist on other scamps,

http://tinyurl.com/BuyerC4C

- J.

oldscoob
Jul 20, 2009 at 11:58 am

bizarre. like modern engineers. The vanagon rusting in half is worth more than the clunker reward. I hope to stay in a locale that has not these stampedes of complete retard…

Monk73
Jul 20, 2009 at 11:30 am

After the price of the toyota I had writen that the guy could put $1700 towards a new tacoma (22mpg 2wd 5speed) and that the vanagon persons was worth $5000 but most likely was sitting around or burning oil.

Monk73
Jul 20, 2009 at 11:26 am

Well lets see, the jag probably has electrical issue or some part is going to be too expensive. Estimated PPV: $3675 => $3500 garunteed to get its worth.

Landrover, gets most likely 12mpg Estimated PPV: $2000 < $3500, $1500 to put towards a new car with better gas mileage.

Toyota truck with clearly visible rust holes most notably the metal holding the turnsignal in plus a grand total of assuming around 14 or 15mpg. Estimated PPV: $1725 $3500. Poor decision on the owners part, but chances are, it was sitting around or like I said burning oil like a champ.

A definite $3500 for your car that is just sitting around is an amazing deal and that is why people are doing it. Plus I hear atleast 5 dealership advertisements about the deal daily.

1664172
Jul 20, 2009 at 11:24 am

My God! the person with the Jaguar! Have They No Soul!!! It’s perfect! I wonder if there is a way I could save it? anybody know???