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October 6, 2010

Custom Gauge Pods and Plastic Restoration, Part 1

By David Belau

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I’ve talked a lot about eventually turbocharging the Slant Six in my 1966 Dodge Dart. There are a lot of steps I need to take in order to make that happen. One of them is installing the necessary gauges. There’s scant acreage on a ’66 Dart’s dash, so I had to find a place to put them. I’ve always liked the windshield pillar gauge pods, but no one makes them for a Dart. Oh well, I guess I’ll have to make my own. Follow along as I modify the windshield pillar trim and restore it to better than new.

The first thing I did was order a gauge pod set for a vehicle with a similar windshield rake. I chose an early 90′s Dodge truck since their windshields are pretty upright. I wanted to make sure the gauges would be at a good angle when mounted. As you can see, the pods are made to attach to trim that is convex, whereas my trim is concave. I sanded and carved and ground on them until they fit tighter.

Here they are after all that work:

I ground them down so much that it may have been wiser to just use single generic pods rather than a double like I bought.

After I was satisfied with the fit and location, I cut the back out of the trim. I left a small strip to leave some rigidity while I glued the pods down. After they were bonded, I cut this out.

You’ll notice that I also roughed up the area where I was going to glue down the pods. I used an SEM product called “Bumper Repair.” I bought this before I did research on bonding plastic parts, and now that I look back, I don’t think I would have used this product. Not that it’s a bad product, I just found a better method.

Here’s a picture of the backside after slathering it on:

At this point, the project sat on the bench for a while as I tried to decide what to use for filler to smooth out the transitions. I read horror stories where standard Bondo was used on plastic and cracked off soon after. What could I use? Some guys said you can make a slurry if you take plastic shavings and mix them with acetone. That didn’t sound like it would smooth out well, but it did turn on a bulb in my head. While I was cutting my trim piece, the sweet smell of melting ABS (that I remember from my plumbing days) came to my nose. My trim is made from ABS, and so are the pods. I could use ABS plumbing glue to make repairs on my project! After some research I found that ABS glue is actually just ABS plastic melted in a solvent, usually MEK. When the solvent evaporates, it leaves solid plastic. When applied to an existing ABS surface, the solvent melts into the existing piece, forming a very tight bond. The “Bumper Repair” product is an epoxy. It can only mechanically bond to the ABS, so it’s not as strong. I wish I would have used the ABS glue instead, but I was too far down the road already.

With my new-found knowledge, I decided to make some repairs to my trim. The mounting holes on these pieces always break, so I decided to reinforce them. To match the curve of the trim, I used the sections I cut out behind the gauge pods. I glued these down over the original holes with ABS glue. After they dried, I drilled them out:


On the upper part of the trim, there was a piece that was completely missing. This is a section that mates with a metal piece, and in my experience, is usually cracked or missing like mine. How will I fix it? You’ll have to wait for part two to find out! Thanks for reading.

Comments

David Belau
Oct 14, 2010 at 3:46 pm

Actually, that permalink is dead, so try this:
http://blog.cardomain.com/2010/10/11/custom-gauge-pods-and-plastic-restoration-part-2/

David Belau
Oct 14, 2010 at 3:44 pm

Part 2 is here…if you missed it:
http://blog.cardomain.com/2010/10/11/custom-gauge-pods-and-plastic-

93WHITELXCOUPE
Oct 14, 2010 at 2:59 pm

Any updates? I would like to see the final product.

DatsunDave07
Oct 8, 2010 at 11:51 am

Cyberdyne2500, Plumbers use ABS glue on most of their pipes. Available at your local Hardware and Home improvement stores. I make custom center consoles out of ABS sheets (1/8″ Black textured) and use the ABS blue in the process. It melts the plastics and bond them together as one. Great stuff. Great writeup dartslantsix

mhorton
Oct 7, 2010 at 12:24 pm

The thing is, the ABS glue works exactly like the Acetone slurry you rejected. The acetone melts the ABS into a paste, thick or thin depending on the ratio. The acetone in the mix also melts the plastic in the peices being bonded, then evaporates leaving solid plastic, so it is a chemical bond just like the glue. Really your just using a different solvent. The advantage of the acetone/plastic paste is that you can use it to fill gaps.
Now I have had some issues bonding this way but I suspect it was because the peice I was bonding probably was not ABS.

GTwildfire
Oct 6, 2010 at 5:42 pm

Great tip on the glue. Nice fabrication.

Rob Einaudi
Oct 6, 2010 at 7:08 am

Nice!

Cyberdyne2500
Oct 6, 2010 at 5:00 am

Nice work, didn’t know there was an ABS glue!

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